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Here yah go..a total fake made around 2000 to 2005. I've had left around here for years as a reference for modern-day patina treatments.
previous detail image taken with the Mag Cam shown with pot..
Face reality man, you're wasting your life with your silliness.
Peter
Hello Peter
I have posted these photographs in another thread regarding Galerie Zacke. I recently purchased this bronze belt hook in their last Asian Art sale and it was catalogued as being a Han dynasty piece. Do you think that this patina looks genuine?
Kind regards,
Jeremy
Mr. Sharon has been told by many folks, actual experts, his objects are all knock offs-copies and he simply refuses to believe it. Its been going on for years and years.
Years ago I met a guy who thought he owned dozens of authentic Rembrandts, Picasso and works by Tintoretto. He wasted decades of his life trying to convince anyone who would listen to him they were all authentic. All from a "secret source"..they were mediocre copies all. He truly believed it, despite being told by many museums and top dealers the truth.
It's happened many times in the art world, Mr. Sharon is just another unfortunate case.
It's sad really.
Peter
I have tried to make it easy, Click on the photos
Formation of Fanlike Crystal Needles
Most crystals simply begin to grow using available molecules. This results in discrete crystals whose sizes depend on available material. But malachite is different. It seldom forms discrete crystals of good size. Instead, scientists say, developing malachite crystals “split”, diverging into tiny needles, packed together in a fanlike arrangement.
The fanlike malachite needles grow into tightly bonded spherules, which crowd together and bond, forming a solid mass. When the spherules stop growing and terminate, the top surface is rounded to some degree. The terms “botryoidal” (resembling a cluster of grapes) and “reniform” (kidney-shaped) are used to describe large to small undulating masses of spherules.
Author Bob Jones, Holds the Carnegie Mineralogical Award, is a member of the Rockhound Hall of Fame, and has been writing for Rock & Gem since its inception. He lectures about minerals and has written several books and video scripts.
( Look closely at the coin you can see the
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(Large Botryoidal Malachite formation}
(Photo of Fire Gilted Band showing extensive
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This is copper corrosion it will crumble in your hands and Peter thinks is malachite and cuprite crystals it’s this is exactly the deception they pull on collectors to control the market place.
HAVE A REQUEST FOR ALL COLLECTORS. IF YOU BELIEVE IN HONESTY AND REAL TRANSPARENCY IN THE CHINESE ART MARKET, AND COLLECTING. (TAKE A LITTLE TIME AND READ MY ENTIRE FEED IT JUST MAY BE OF HELP TO YOU AND OTHERS) "ALSO PLEASE HELP ME BY COPYING THE ADDRESS OF THIS SITE FROM THE BROWSER, AND PASTE THE LINK AND EMAIL IT TO ANYONE INVOLVED IN ANYWAY WITH CHINESE ARTS. WHETHER THEY BE A COLLECTORS, DEALERS, AUCTION HOUSE, MUSEUM, NEWS MEDIA". Please be courteous in your Emails, there are lots of good people that are caught up in this corruption and they fear coming forward.
PS You should check that Shang Bronze
Regards,
Joseph Sharon
ChineseMasterpieces.com
Joe,
Enough already Joe..you're done here. Get help, that's all I can say.
If you persist in pushing your convoluted interpretations and understanding of science, your misinformed understanding of authenticating Chinese objects in general, and keep on accusing the very good people in the Asian art community from auction houses to museums to dealers of being involved in your nutty conspiracy theory, you'll be blocked from this site. Discussing fakes here is fine, arguing that fakes are authentic is not fine. THis kind of lunacy is not welcome here.
Peter
To be fair with him, his video with the bonham's specialist is quite entertaining and funny. I will give him that.
Well, not to beat a dead horse, but...
With respect to any pre-Ming porcelains, you better get some solid provenance to back up their authenticty as most auction houses are unwilling to sell them as period. It's a huge risk to spend $$$ on Mr. Joe's 'antiques' (or anyone elses for that matter) without historical evidence thatnthe piece has been in a known collection for some time.
Secondly, even if Mr. Joe's pieces were authentic (which they clearly appear to modern copies), as a buyer/seller, let me say clearly that if the general audience of experienced buyers feel the piece is not genuine - real or not, do not buy it.
Every collector is looking to acquire the best piece that exemplifies the period and style of its creation. If a genuine piece did exist that fails to exemplify the correct style, it would have no value to collectors anyhow.
I think this rule is true for jade and bronze, and perhaps all art, but regarding bronzes, this can be verified (at least in part).
The composition of metals in archaic bronzes is known. I've been assisted by Dr. Bezhad Bavarian on a few occassions...he's a great guy and knows his stuff about metal composition amd corrosion - he did his doctoral thesis on archaic bronzes. He also has contacts in China currently involved in archaic bronze research and excavation.
Last time I used his services it cost me $500 and shipping fees. My last report was 15 page analysis of 8 samples taken from various location, electron microscopic photos, metal composition analysis, identifcation of recent repair/artificial aging, etc. It was comprehensive to say the least.
Dr. B. is not known in the antiques trade - he's a professor and all about the science, but you can Google him....he is the real deal. Or, let me know if you want to contact him and I'll reach out for you.
I saw this guy years ago and couldn’t believe what he was saying. Makes a good thread though.
OMG I thought it was some kind of electric skillet in the picture with the cord. That would have made some funky chicken!
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@originalbidamountkid 😆 Maybe some chicken that looks fried but isn't actually....artificial frying meant to deceive
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