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A while back Peter mentioned this seller who was ranting on about his so-called priceless collection via YouTube.
He has since moved on to establish a website,
This guy Joseph Sharon is really deluded. Ranting and raving on with baseless claims about the major auction houses colluding in some kind of conspiracy.
All his items offered for sale are IMO either totally fake or late 20th century reproductions at best.
If this guy is convinced of what he says, then it is a sad case, he needs long sessions on the psychiatrist bed.
But I believe that he is just playing a role. Where he buys all those fake? He knows the provenance, obvious.
It is sad also to see how many unprevented people is believing him. His videos should be banned; dangerous.
Hi Mark and Giovanni,
’All else are wrong - but I’ ...
Always an interesting point in which to start any discussion from!! He appears totally convinced that these objects are the original and authentic ‘tribute’ wares produced for the Imperial courts, and all other pieces, that archeological and historic reference have attributed as such wares are just ‘merchant or trade class’ wares, but you only have to look at the painting style - Yuan/Ming pieces - to see these ‘World Class’ pieces are very wrong ...
As Giovanni mentions, he may well be either role playing, or a front for someone/thing else ... I would concur - his videos are very misleading - they should be banned ...
Did you notice how careless he handles his expensive vases? Grabbing them at the neck with one hand and even banging them together when he puts them away. I think he knows very well they are fakes. The whole effort with videos and website pays off if he finds only one buyer. („Special of the month“: only $35.000)
It's pretty bad that his videos are among the first youtube recommends when searching for ming or qing porcelain.
Yes that’s indeed bad, but I think his conspiracy theory wouldn’t even convince a beginner in field of Chinese porcelain. Don’t know how YouTube algorithms work. In my opinion Peter‘s videos should be top of the list.
This is your so called delusional seller, I welcome you BidAmount.com Peter and Mark or any so called expert to visit me and examine my collection, and hopefully all of us can agree to take lie detector tests and see who is telling the truth about Chinese art and my collection. This can be done at my attorneys office and it can be filmed and posted on youtube for all to see. It's real easy for people like you in this business to say something is fake with know explanation why you believe it's fake.
This is just a small amount of examples of Official Imperial Ru Ware Vases that are part of the hoard of 300 unique pieces from the Personal Collection of Emperor Huizong of Song Dynasty. There is nothing in the world that can compare to the importance of this collection, many of these forms have never been seen before, the condition of this collection is exquisite. It's 100% authentic and easy to prove because of the cuprite and malachite corrosion takes many centuries to develop on the fire gilded copper bands and everyone can see this easily with your own eyes also the crushed agate in the glaze can be seen with a 20x loupe. Ru ware is all over the internet and the auction houses are still telling people that their all fake they're lying to you. Only Official Imperial Ru wares are rare and they are not all over the internet. Collecting Chinese Ceramics is no different than any other collectable you must collect quality pieces that have well balanced forms exquisitely painted and glazed and should be in excellent condition. In China they produced millions and millions of pieces over the centuries and the Chinese people have been collecting forever so lots of pieces survived but there were few Masterpieces produced over the centuries because it takes time and special skills that only a few artisans had. Chinese Art collecting is about to change drastically if it's to continue to grow throughout the world. The real cream is about to rise to the top. All the people in the art business will have to tell people the truth about their art work and they will be better off if they do. The Auction houses took the wrong road when China opened up to the world. Instead of being honest with collectors they continued to lie about the art market because they were caught when China opened up and all these fine pieces reached the marketplace that were much better than what Sotheby's Christie's and Bonham's had been selling for the last 75 years or more. Now is the time for these auction houses to change and create a honest free market.
I am not a resident of the United States. I live in Australia. So I respectfully decline your offer for obvious reasons.
What's the point of taking a lie detector test. It does not prove your items are real. It just proves you think or believe they are. It's I submit with respect possibly deceptive conduct on your part to even suggest a ludicrous procedure. I have never heard anyone performing this to prove an item is genuine!
With respect to your vast jade inventory. Have you or do you know of Sam Bernstein from San Francisco. If so have you ever consulted him with regard to dating?
Do these jade offerings come with any provenance at all?
How do you distinguish between hand carving tooling and modern drill?
Mark, you know I'm not a happy camper with you, I think you should apologise for calling me a name you can't back up!
I'm not here to teach you anything but I will show you 1 example that no one knows how they were carved it has confounded all scholars that have study jade carvings maybe you know the answer, my Eastern Zhou Dynasty Jade double dragon Huang pendant
Because you decided to ridicule my collection maybe you know what this is growing on fire gilded bands of my Ru Ware.
PS. I saw his name around, I don't know him personally
It's was not my intention to call you names if you think that is what delusional is. It's a state of mind. Nothing offensive I submit.
Do you think this jade pendant you posted is genuine and from the period? WHY?
How do you explain those white blotches and speckled white spots? Natural or dyed?
Sorry to say, you no nothing about Nephrite Jade What you said is completely wrong and another LIE. And I suggest you throw the guy from canada book out The phenomenon of calcification is believed to be caused by decomposing the structural water of the jade. The cause of decomposition may be from the interaction of heat and the pressure of the environment where the jade is buried. Also Elements/minerals from the soil slowly seep into the jade material often causing what is called rivers or veins. Another explanation is that calcification is caused by the interaction of the jade and the surrounding calcium where the antique jade was buried. Jade is hard as steel you'll never scratch my Jade Huang with a stainless steel knife it can be penetrated by dyes or chemicals because nephrite jade is a fibrous stone they would just lay on top not penetrating deeply into the stone, they sometimes dyed jade carvings from the late ming and it doesn't really penetrate or look like a buried piece. No fake treatment can cause rivers and veins, it takes a long long time being buried and the very slow expansion and contraction of the jade material to cause rivers or veins.
And the piece you just put up is Modern Junk. You should never sell that piece to anyone. I'll give you one more example Look closely at that piece I posted you will see some veins
What's the matter with you can't even admit that this fire gilded Bands shown on my Ru ware is cuprite and malachite because you think you know something. That can't be faked!
I can tell you I have been collecting Nephrite Jade a lot longer than you. I have handled many thousands of ancient and archaic jade carvings. You posted this bullshit because you have been lead to believe you have been told the truth. Let me tell you something about lie detectors they are used all the time when people are in a bad marriage and they have been cheated on. The FBI uses it all the time. Business also use them to catch a theft. What does a honest person have to lose by taking the test nothing, only the lairs have something to fear.
I want to say one thing I'm only trying to inform collectors that they have been deceived by a lot of corrupt people and people that are afraid to speak up it's really sad.
Go to my website https//www.ChineseMasterpieces.com it may be helpful.
PS. Why have you edited all that stuff you wrote?
What rubbish are you writing about lie detectors. What's that got to do with whether a piece is genuine or not.
Heat treatment can and does cause blotchy white spots. Or am I wrong?
I doubt you have handled thousands of archaic items.
Have you taken your jade/other pieces to sotheby's, christies or bonhams?
I have been dealing in jade/other since 1981. Forty years actually! How about you?
Do you have a gemologist qualifications? No probably not. Well guess what......
Are these modern junk also?
Show me a known piece of archaic jade with white spots and blotchy look. Not yours but from a well-known collection.
The first one a jade toggle with agarwood beads. Circa 1900.
The second image a large jade censer. Late Qing period.
The third image a Yuan-Ming jade plaque/buckle.
The last one is a certified natural jadeite jade guan yin. Note the high translucency and emerald green color.
I have to attend a funeral today but this unexpected revival of an old thread brightened up my day.
@Mark: He can’t show you an authentic piece from an auction house or museum because all the authentic pieces are in his possession.
I doubt even the top experts at one of the three majors has handled as much archaic jade as Mr Sharon. Perhaps all three have not.
I did before view his website. Why wouldn't the imperial palace accept his offer of a donation of the items etc. If they were genuine they would jump at it.
So it appears the whole market is in some sort of conspiracy according to Joseph.
Now I remember him from another website www.asianart.com
He was ridiculed there for posting fake porcelain etc. I won't get into an argument with him on song period porcelain because I know little about it. But when it comes to my area. Well then that is a different story.
Perhaps take your item to a gemologist like GIA for a test. It's non intrusive and they will tell you if there are any dyes etc.
The lines carved into the stone have tiny chips on either side. This indicates it's been done by a modern drill. Also there are subtle gaps in between some of the lines. Like broken lines. Also indicates where the drill has jumped.
Can't scratch nephrite with a stainless steel knife. Try harder!
I don't need a lie detector to tell me what I already know. If I was a betting man I would give you very good odds on it being dyed and modern.
And no the gemologist society are not in the conspiracy either by the way.
Next you will be telling me Donald Trump really won the election and it's the establishment after him.
Some of my concerns are the following outlines areas. You say these are natural. I say dyed.
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