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Dear John,
Thank you very much! It will be of great help.
Let me guess what print you're going to bid on ...The very nice Kuniharu's black ship?
That was easy! 😀
A very good print! The ship is awesome, curious about the US flags. I also really like these frames and cartouches with a very good calligraphy work.A very elegant composition design. Good luck with your bid!
All the best,
MB
Good guess, Marco, although I think my recent posts have made it easy for you! Yes, that's the one. Hope it doesn't go for too much. I'll be in touch if it works out.
Also on that print, since it's dated c. 1872, I can only assume after the arrival of Commodore Perry in 1850's, woodblock print artists focused on the newest barbarians. Although, that print shows a clipper ship rather than Perry's steamships. Will have to look more into it, just my preliminary thoughts on the US flags.
John
The world of woodblock prints is very odd, I think. He’s a print selling at a famous dealers for upwards of $9000. It’s an authentic print from his famous series 53 Stations of the Tokkaido Road. It’s not a reprint.
But here’s another. It sold for less than half the price. And it’s very much better. The color is better, it’s an earlier state. In the first one some of the lines are actually broken. This one is in splendid condition. Go figure.
Wendy,
I've always been wary of older woodblock prints because of this, and that's why I usually am more comfortable with the more modern Shin Hanga prints. "Original" vs. "Reproduction" vs. "Restrikes" vs. "Reprints" are all terms that confuse me, and the only approach I have is to look at dated originals in museums, and zoom in comparing the "key block" lines, then other "color block" impressions trying to find any differences in how the woodblocks for that print were cut. It's very tedious, and I hope there's a better way. Maybe the second one sold for less because it is made from recut blocks later on, and is a reproduction. Or maybe it is an original and more reflective of the true value, whereas the first is an inflated listing price. Just my thoughts.
John
@bartholin Thanks for your thoughtful response, John. The second print is actually much earlier than the first. It is a very early printing. So your second surmise is right. You can tell because the first is greyed out. There's very little color in it by comparison, and some of the lines are broken. The most important way to tell, though, is by the beauty, IMO. The second one has a kind of luminous haunting quality, I think, absent in the first. Also note the interesting coloration of the trees, which is absent in the first.I don't think one needs to tediously study the lines. That would drive me mad. I just look at the beauty, the detail, the overall color. Old Hiroshiges have such beautiful color. And I study books a lot. That way you learn about what the different editions (and some of the early prints of the second editions are wonderful - they were done when the artist was alive) are supposed to look like.
And one more thing - only the prints from 1858 or before can be considered originals, because that's when Hiroshige died (of cholera, horribly enough, at 62). Later ones are restrikes or from recarved blocks or whatever you want to call them, but they're not original. That's why they're worth so much less.
I have to point out that the museum copies of this first work (Geese descending over Katata) are surprisingly variable and I do not think that it is absolutely certain that this is a restrike. It has condition issues but I don't think the possibility of its being original can be ruled out. I would take it to a dealer to confirm it one way or another. But restrikes that I have seen are sharper and bolder and faker-looking. Because it's so variable a print, and apparently exists in a number of authentic editions, I would check it out.
I did find mine on abebooks...$300. So I won’t be buying a yacht or such 😋
Todd
take it with a grain of salt
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