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I found an article about Vietnamese pottery.
The sale of 15th century Vietnamese pottery by auction in America from a shipwreck, referred to as the Hoi An Hoard, was very exciting
The Hoi An Hoard, as has been the case with several other wrecks, was not found by archaeologists nor even by historians, but by fishermen, though happily not excavated by them. It became in fact the only commercial underwater site to have been excavated in a correct archaeological manner. It is one of the earliest cargoes (dated c. 1450-1500) to have come on to the market and to my mind is the most interesting and important of them all. Moreover, it is the only large Vietnamese cargo to have been discovered
I believe that the cargo in fact contains more Vietnamese ceramics of the period than exist worldwide, taking into account not only all the museums but also all the private collections. The Hoard will be a source of research for years to come.
I forgot to add that Robert Mc Pherson a London Antique dealer held an exhibition at his shop in London and in fact sold most of the items, so it would not be surprising to find one in that part of the world.
Maybe send him a picture and ask him. He would be interested and if not a very good source of information for Vietnamese pottery. Just google his name and you will find him.
Hi Adrian,
I will start a new thread about Hoi An when I come from work.
Best regards
Shinigami
Birgit
Thank you Short Dong. That was very interesting, especially if there is a chance that this jar just might be from that specific ship. I saw that Mac Pherson had one small object for sale on his site. The cobalt on that one seems lighter than on my jar.
I might contact him before i am visiting London next time in July.
-Adrian
McPherson Lives in holland now i think, he moved from London. You can find him on facebook.
Here are some examples........
Jar, Vietnam, Lê dynasty (15th – 16th century).
Jar 15th century Later Le dynasty Stonew
http://www.alaintruong.com/archives/2017/12/15/35961558.html
Your jar has very similar traits to these,
Sorry about interupting the thread, but you mentioned McPherson. Did any of you deal with him lately? I want to buy something from him and have tried to contact him three times over the last year but never got an answer. I tried over the enquiry form at www.orientalceramics.com as well as over the mail adress he gives. Can it be he's now longer actively dealing?
Birgit
Shini
He is on facebook
His last post was a few days ago and he will reply to you within 24 hours. I have not had dealings with him but he comes across as a wonderful man and his history in the antiques business and how he became an antique dealer is reminds me of the character in the book by Jeffery Archer As the Crow Flies. Charlie Trumper who worked his way from selling from his grandfathers wheelbarrow to getting a big shop on the high street.
Also if anyone was watching Alfred Ceramics sale of those Chinese porcelain figurines. He sold all of them for over £850 each. The reason I liked Robert is that his prices were very close to market. He was selling the exact same type of figurine as Alfred sold and for almost the exact same price.I think his was £915. That also leaves room to haggle. So it is good to see a dealer meet market prices like that.
Thanks for the information ShortDong. As I am no longer on facebook I don't see how to contact him. The link on facebook goes to the same website that seems to be a dead end. Well maybe it just shouldn't be.
Birgit
If you want to give me a contact email i will send a message to him to contact you about Antique business alternatively you could open a fun facebook page 🙂
This is very kind of you, ShortDong. I can be reached at [email protected] .Thanks a lot!
Birgit
Ok, I have sent your details to him. He should be in touch. I was tempted to ask robert about Adrians Jar but first things first 🙂
Talk to you later.
D..for Dong
If anyone of you guys would like my contactinfomation for some reason here it is on Fb or what ever (i Will remove this in a couple og days):
Adrian Nyhagen
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