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I see that many of the auction houses on Live Auctioneers and other sites say that shipping must be arranged through a third party. How does that work? Is there a way to estimate the cost of shipping?
And what if the auction house says they do the shipping?
Third party shipping is expensive. They usually do the packing also you could end up paying more for the shipping than the item.
Gary,
Always get a quote ahead of the auction if possible. Many of the shippers are very expensive for the packaging, as Brian said, they charge a premium for packaging the item. I have often bought large items, paintings and furniture from many auction houses all over, and I have to factor the shipping quote into the price.
I was surprised a few years ago when purchasing a loose map, that the shipping ended up as twice the price of the map because the shipper wouldn't roll it and packed it in a box with 4" of space on all sides, it blew my mind when I got a massive box in the mail, after wonder how on earth the shipping was so high. I learned my lesson, and always email all the shippers listed before hand.
Jeremy
Is there a list of auction houses that have reasonable prices on shipping?
Here is a recent breakdown for total costs associated with winning an item at at an overseas auction and getting it to the US. For example, let’s say your winning bid for an item is $3000.00 before commission, shipping, taxes and customs duty charges. You will spend roughly that same amount again for those additional charges. A percentage breakdown for this example would be as follows:
Winning Bid 53.2%
Commission 13.3%
Shipping 20.7%
Taxes 7.1%
Customs 5.7%
Is there a list of auction houses that have reasonable prices on shipping?
@gm2037 Most auction houses do not provide in house shipping, so it wouldn't really be a list of auction houses, it would be a list of shippers. One big thing to keep in mind, however, is that shipping is NOT something you want to skimp on. Go with a high end art shipper and trust me, do not nickel and dime on shipping costs. The last thing you want is a third party shipper not doing a good job packing and having something be broken. Once that item leaves the auction house's hands, they have no liability. My suggestion is use the internal shipping service if the auction house offers one. If not, ask who they recommend the most for safe shipping and go with them.
Do yourself a major favor and do not spend thousands on an item to have it be broken by a budget shipper. Just my thoughts.
Justin
Third party shipping is expensive. They usually do the packing also you could end up paying more for the shipping than the item.
My quote for a painting the size of a sheet of paper is over 400 euros to get it out of France. They are not basing this on the items.
For post sale bids when it has become apparent that the item is a difficult sell, the quotes drop off precipitously. I wish they would reign in this practice of overcharging so I could participate more. It is not just one auction house.
400 EUR seem to be Bonham‘s standard shipping price. I once paid it but it prevents me from buying there again. They sent me a survey recently how content I was with the buy and I told them, but of course it will change nothing.
If you buy for 50.000 the 400 are peanuts but if you buy for 800 they are a lot. With that practice they might lose a few clients in the low to mid price range but they probably don’t care.
Birgit
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