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Topic starter 01/03/2022 2:04 am  

Are these basically the same, or am I missing something? (Wouldn’t be the 1st time) 😛 

Thanks, Todd

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01/03/2022 2:55 am  

How do you mean? Obviously they aren't the same piece, but in what other sense the same? Could well be me missing something! 😊 


   
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Topic starter 01/03/2022 3:02 am  

Hi Julia 😀 

The one on the left sold at Christies. Do you think the item on the right is comparable in quality? Seem very similar to me. 

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01/03/2022 3:20 am  

There are many of these around and of course if you buy one on Ebay it’s cheaper than to buy at Christies. The quality of these 20th century Guanyins is generally good but they have no collectors value and will probably never have. If you want to buy one for decoration it’s best to look for one whose face and posture appeal most to you.

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01/03/2022 5:51 am  

Funnily enough, I bought one yesterday. She has lost the fingers on one hand but I liked her and as she only cost 32 euros, I treated myself. 😊 

As Birgit says, there are some very attractive pieces from the 20th c at a wide variety if prices even with similar quality. There are also some of lesser quality at inflated prices, notably the standing figures with a largish hole in the base and sometimes remnants of a red mark or number. They often have the hand-missing. 

Of the two you posted, Todd, I think I prefer the Christies one, but if I could compare from other angles, I might change my mind.


   
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01/03/2022 5:56 am  

Please show a picture of yours, Julia. The missing fingers can mean that the Guanyin was actually "in use" in a household. People removed the fingers or hands if they made a wish. I have a 19th century one where the hands are attached with some glaze so they could easily been taken out if needed.

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@shinigami 

I have never heard that, but somewhere I have one that the hand was removed, I always had assumed it was lost, I wondered why they made it so easy for the hand to come out.

Interesting.

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01/03/2022 10:00 am  

I will, Birgit, but they are possibly just broken.  It was hard to see from the photos as they do not enlarge - it was a bit of a risk buying it but what can be wrong with it for that price if I like it ? I am already factoring in the damage and that it may have been made yesterday.

I have one of the ones that I mentioned earlier, I paid a whole £2.99 for that one!  Her hand is deliberately missing in line with the legend no doubt.  Interestingly though, it seems it was not only Guan Yin figurines that has the removable hands.


   
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01/03/2022 10:51 am  

@jbeer2121 

It was made quite clever, on my Guanyin you could  break the hand out without damaging the statue. When the wish was granted the hand was glued in again. There are also fingers missing by the way but that might have been an accident.

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01/03/2022 11:07 am  

That's interesting as I can see on my other figure that the hands have been fixed back in but not very professionally!


   
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@shinigami 

Thanks for the pic, that's how mine is but the hand is missing.  I guess their wish didnt come true... 😪 

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04/03/2022 12:06 pm  

I think the break is just accidental.  

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04/03/2022 3:16 pm  

Yes the fingers are the most vulnerable part of these statue. That’s a very nice and peaceful looking Guanyin. 

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04/03/2022 3:42 pm  

Some of the small white ceramic statues of the white robed Kwan Yin have a detachable hand that can be pulled out of the sleeve of her robe.        

     The belief is that when you want something, you petition Kwan Yin.  Then you take the small white hand and hide it somewhere in your house. Kwan Yin, presumably, is so distressed at losing her hand that she will grant you your wish.  Then when your desire has been granted, you find the little hand and replace it on the statue.


   
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