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Hi Everyone,
My January spending spree continues! I bought at auction this morning this lot with a 10" Nanking pattern chinese coffee pot. No chips, repairs, or cracks for any of the items. They listed them simply as "Canton teapot and tankards" which helped me in limiting the competition, I think. (I would have listed them as: "Chinese Nanking coffee pot and Canton tankards" but that may be too many letters.) This was not featured in the Global Members listed items but it looks authentic to me. I have never seen a Chinese coffee pot that mimics European silver service quite like this; I think it's rather elegant and a good quality example. It was a splurge but I had to have it; if I take good care of it I can think of it as an investment. I might sell off the Canton mugs.
Would love to know your thoughts and if you've seen one this shape before.
This is the only photo of the pot; they posted several of the mugs but no more of the pot - another mistake, I think, for them. I'll post more photos when it arrives.
Regards,
Steve
Hey Steve,
Nice group there. Those tankards are earlier in my opinion. They all look clean so I consider that a win to begin with.
I have seen a few examples of the coffee pot in that form, though I don't recall a Canton one.
Here are some pics from Mudge's book "Chinese Export Porcelain in North America" similar form different pattern. Also I think yours may be on the earlier end of the spectrum , maybe 1820-30 since the border seems quite fine.
Hope this helps a bit.
Jeremy
Congratulations on your latest acquisitions. Interesting they didn't focus on the pot as it looks to be the better quality item in terms of decoration. This isn't really an area I know anything about, so I will look forward to reading everyone's comments.
Hi Jeremy, Yes, that Mandarin coffee pot in the book looks very similar. Thank you! The detail is rather fine, so I agree, probably made before 1830 or so. It's hard to know if Canton came later or at the same time as Nanking, isn't it? The tankards aren't the most precise examples of Canton decoration, especially the one on the right. The handles are on the fancy side and their style harkens back to Qianlong designs; I think the tankard handles became simpler as time went by.
Thank you, Julia! I was surprised as well that they didn't feature the pot in most of the photos, clearly the most valuable item. That's the beauty of these big auctions; there are often details that get left out that could have helped the seller. A nice tureen (like the one I have) plus its platter went for only $400 (see photo). Strangely enough, they included no photos of the platter or any other details. Another tureen of the same size with floral decoration, no platter, went for $500 (go figure!) and perhaps the most valuable lot was this group of Chinese jades that sold for $77,500.00!
A great find. In my opinion the tankards are early Canton pattern from Daoguang. The handles are typical for early examples. The Nanking pot has a classical form that was popular around 1800. I think it derives from silver ware, I have two 1800 pewter coffee pots with that form (the poor man’s silver).
Birgit
Very nice buy....... Much better than the jades which were a crazy price from what I can see. Perhaps it was the small white jade object that was of interest. Unfortunately I can't see the image at all!
Mark
Steve, what a great buy! I am excited to see you share your future purchases here. I love the Nanking coffeepot in particular!
Just a few examples of silver teapots (Had to dig through sales folder), as their forms changed, I agree the pot is likely close to 1800. The porcelain certainly copied the silver forms. The tall footed one was dated 1773 I believe, the middle sized was 1804, and the short stubby one 1820 or so. Steve's looks like it falls in the middle of the first two.
Hopefully this helps.
Cheers,
Jeremy
@shinigami Yes, I think that's right. The Nanking border pattern demands a higher amount of time and attention to detail than the Canton; by the 1820s the U.S. had a thriving pottery industry and there was less demand for imports and consequently Chinese porcelain was commanding lower prices so the Canton pattern dominated B&W exports. It was a dynamic that fed on itself. The ships were still going to China but mainly for tea, silks, spices and other luxury goods, the porcelain was still needed at least for ballast but it wasn't as important.
Hi Mark,
Yes, I hope the buyer knew what they were doing with that lot of jade! Here is the link if you want to see better photos.
Steve
Thanks, Sharon! It was a big splurge and I feel decadent. Maybe it's time to tighten my belt and/or start selling items!
Thanks, John! Hope 2022 is treating you well so far. I'll update this topic with more photos when the coffee pot arrives.
Regards,
Steve
Hi Jeremy,
Thank you, these photos are helpful. The first one is the closest, and although it has a high leg it's clearly a tea pot with that long spout.
Steve
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