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Hi Giovanni,
I think John uses some dictation device instead of a keyboard, that’s what makes the posts sometimes difficult for non English speakers. Am I right, John?
Birgit
Hello, Birgit
Sorry, I don’t alway use period and comas when I’m talking to people.I forget how touchy Giovanni is, when I’m careing on a conversation with the folks on this site I forget your not in the same room with me.
i thought this was a site where people could come to with out binging, humiliate or put down.That like a lot of folk think Chinese painted and made porcelain pieces only in Chinese style,that when out the window in Qing period onwards good luck to you all, John
Sorry John, if I have inadvertently offended you, it wasn’t my intention. I think we’re all happy to have you here. As for me I read your posts as if someone was reading them aloud to me, that way I can understand most of them.
Birgit
Identifying fake Jade is difficult if seen only with the naked eye or through images
There is a need for modern equipment inspection.
With the most common way I use to distinguish glue-treated Jadeite, I will use a flashlight with ultraviolet light to look at the jade ring, a closer look will reveal the polymer glue coated in it and emits blue light.
I would like to introduce to you a site that introduces the history of cam thach Jade here: https://daquyneja.com/da-cam-thach/
The more I learn about Jade, the more I love them.
Whenever I wear the bracelet on my hand, I feel my spirit is always comfortable.
Jade gives rise to spiritual elements, making users feel the "soul" of matter for millions of years, hiding in a profound and favorable place, absorbing the yin and yang spirit of heaven and earth.
@ ha Thien
Firstly welcome to this great forum.
Thank you for the link to your website with an introduction to jade.
I dont know why you refer to jadeite jade and jade as marble since marble is an entirely different stone structure with a mohs grading of 3. Perhaps it is a language barrier thing when I translated to English.
I have heard most recently that there is a new form of dye/treatment that renders the use of a UV light useless. Have you heard or come across these new techniques etc?
I agree with you on the issue of difficulty regarding the authentication of jade without the proper gem laboratory tools etc. It can be a real maze of difficulty out there without the due experience and knowledge.
Mark
Hello, Birgit
you didn’t offend me that the way I communicate as if you were here, my Texas slang
is some time hard to follow and I type as if you were here talking with me, sorry for that.
Me I have more questions than answers so I keep looking , John
Dear John,
be sure that my intention was not to humiliate you, in no way. My intention was to tell you that it is not correct, in respect to others, to write that way. Sorry, I am saying what frankly I think.
When reading, everybody starts reading at a certain speed and keep that speed constant until he finds a punctuation. If there is no punctuation, everybody reads the text as if it is a single sentence, and he must make an effort to try to place the punctuations in the right place, in order to understand the meaning of the writer. It is the punctuation that gives intelligibility to a sentence.
That, sorry to be frank, is true not only in writing but also in conversation. If somebody speaks words after words at constant sequence, with no pauses at all like it is in your writings, he is not understandable unless a big effort from the listener, who after a while will for sure stop to listen.
People (at least me) is not willing to have to pay efforts, read and re-read, for trying to understand a text, being forced to do so by a writer that skip punctuations for laziness.
Take your above sentence (or sentences, who knows?): “i thought this was a site where people could come to with out binging, humiliate or put down.That like a lot of folk think Chinese painted and made porcelain pieces only in Chinese style,that when out the window in Qing period onwards good luck to you all, John”.
That is not understandable to me, and I am convinced that it is not totally clear also to native English speakers.
I am saying this, dear John, not to humiliate you but for rightly let you face the real situation.
I am more than happy to read your posts, and help if I can, if they are understandable.
Regards,
Giovanni
Hello, Giovanni
let’s leave this along thanks John
Hello Mark
Perhaps a problematic English translation, this article addresses jade and nephrite as two different minerals.
But in our country, jadeite is the common term for these two stones.
I agree with you that marble treatment methods are getting more and more advanced and I don't have any exact way to identify fake marble besides bringing them to gem inspection centers.
@Ha Thien
I hope that you continue to post your thoughts on jade etc. It's great to have someone else with a passion for jade who is active in the trade.
Mark
I think that it is important to explain that Jadeite was first found to be imported from what is now Burma to China around the 16th c.
It is not a native product of China.
Nephrite is from China and has been used for many 1000’s of years.
Cic
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