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Hi,
I was just browsing links on the Newsletter and saw this. Is this an 18th c shape? I always associate it with later 19th c.
Thanks for your help.
Julia
Hi Julie,
In my opinion this vase is modern. The decoration looks like a dog's breakfast. It's all over the place. No rhythm, no skill. Just jumbled together. The flowers if you can call them that are terrible.
Mark
The flowers have a Qianlong feeling to me. But the vase looks as if someone didn’t find it spectacular enough and added a lot of background decoration later. Not something I would buy.
Birgit
At a closer look I would say that only the vase with a few flowers and the underglaze blue was originally there. Additional flowers, butterflies, symbols and background have been added later, probably in the late 19th century.
Birgit
Hi Julie -
Would concur with Mark and Birgit comments, and would only add that the base appears very white/clean ...
Attached images of line drawings of this vessel shape from the Kangxi/Yongzheng and Qianlong periods, taken from this publication. Although by no means comprehensive, as such vases from these reigns are so innovative and un-traditional, it illustrates the minor variations and evolutions of the different forms ...
Hope this us of some help ...
Stuart
I too had been wondering about this vase. If you take away the clobbering, leaving only the underglaze blue, there’s very little left! What would’ve been inside the cartouches? As far as I can see there would be very little? Is it Bont as opposed to clobbered? Or are they the same thing? I know very little about such wares.
Nic
Hi,
Thanks everyone. Sorry if my post was unclear, I was rushing to work. I didn't mean to imply that I thought this was an 18th c example, or that I had any intention of buying it, I haven't.
I was more interested in whether this shape existed then. Thanks Stuart, the diagram is very helpful. I take it from that, that this shape does indeed date back to Kangxi (nr 4?). One sees it so frequently in Kangxi revival pieces from late 19th c that I wondered if this may have been one of those. Although having said that, as Birgit has noted, the flowers near the vase are Qianlong-style.
I would agree that originally, this vase was the underglaze blue with the vase. As such, the original decoration might well be Qianlong? Whatever it's origins, as Mark says, it is quite the dog's breakfast now!
Julia
Definitely Qianlong, then with late 19th c over-painting. Thanks so much for posting that Will. It's really useful as I know shape and style of decoration are important when judging pieces, but I was rather confused as whilst the vase and its flowers are Qianlong in style, the rest of the "decoration"and the shape seemed more like what I expect in late 19th c. Hence my question.
It just shows how important the shape and style are when judging pieces. Thanks for all the input, everyone.
Hi Will,
You have a very nice example. Any plans on restoration?
One reason that I thought the original post was a modern copy and not 18th century is the base. It looks very much in line with sugary-white paste and lacks the gem like quality one would see on period examples. I would also rule out guangxu period.
Or am I missing something?
Mark
Hi Mark,
I don't think it looks sugary more tight and tidy, to me at least. Will have to look at some Qianlong bases when I get home. Or perhaps Will could show a photo of his? The foot, where it meets the ground, does look slightly less splayed-out but that may mean nothing.
Julia
Hi Mark,
As you noticed the mouth is heavily damaged and I don't have the missing pieces. I am not really sure how or where to start with a restoration.
Here are some pictures of the base and foot.
Cheers,
Will
A restorer wouldn’t need the missing pieces but a good restorer wouldn’t be cheap. I don’t know what the vase’s value is, but it may not be economically prudent to restore it, unless it a piece with sentimental value or a piece you especially like?
Nic
Thank you Will for the pictures of your vases base etc. A beautiful example despite the significant damage.
Mark
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