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Hello Guys.
I am new here and I have been collecting chinese antique for 20 years now but mostly Song Pieces.
This is the first time I bought a red bowl.
I would like to ask for your advice.
1.) Would this be a minyao copy of a Daogaung (still at least 100 year old but an old copy)
2.) what is your comment on the footrim ?
3.) Is this a modern fake ?
4.) I saw a big countable bubbles on the mark, would it make this an old kiln wood fired glaze technique ?
Thank you in advance...
Alex
Hi Alexander,
Welcome to the forum.
Monochrome porcelain is very difficult at the best of times
In addition I don't really collect them.
In my opinion it's not a genuine Duagong period example but a copy from the 20th century.
The seal mark for example is crudely done.
But it's best to wait for other opinions.
Mark
Hi Mark.
Thank you for welcoming me!
Yes, I feel like its a minyao early 20th century copy but I am not expert in this field.
Do you notice there are small dark specs at the bottom base of the rim ? Could this have been a result of wood kiln firing ?
Looking forward to some feedback and hope to contribute and share my experience in this journey (never ending it seems..)
Thanks
Alex
Hi Alex,
Yes I noticed them. Normally seen on guangxu period but doesn't exclude other periods. The images provided are not high quality which is problematic in itself.
Unfortunately the fakers are now making them like this with iron spots to give them the appearance of age. In addition they are now using wood fired kilns in China just to make it worse.
It's a difficult area with monochromes. There are far too many high quality copies on the market place. One reason why I generally steer clear of them.
We have a few members here who are very good with these types of porcelain. So hopefully they will visit said and provide their opinions.
Mark
@superox The dish is trying to emulate the monochrome product from imperial kilns. It’s not even an old copy. It’s a modern copy. The dark spots on the underside were made intentionally. It failed in the shape and proportion. Therefore there is no need to check on its glaze or paste or any other details. The market is flooded with copies like it and we have to handle it with extreme care that’s just the way it is. Best
Hi Alex - and as with Mark@imperialfinejems, welcome to this great forum ...
Agree with Mark's, Brian's and Ubecha comments, certainly not Daogaung period and, probably, a few decades old - at best ...
I would only add that there are numerous stroke errors within individual characters of the mark ...
Stuart
@ming1449 Hello and thank you for all the nice input. I bought it for 430 euro so I dont know whether to keep it or sell it back to market. 😢
Another think I notice is that its quite a heavy plate (definetely not like those modern corel plates! 😀 ).
What type of colour is this ? Is this an imitation of a blood red colour ? I heard there are too much colour around of monochrome red.
Last question is for the next possible purchase does it mean that only an Auction house like Christies and Sotheby would be a good source of purchasing an original monochrome red plate ?
Thank you for all your input and I look to post more from my closet...
Alex
@superox -
Hi Alex -
Several different Qing dynasty red glazes are known, including Sacrificial red, Langyao (sometimes referred to as 'sang-de-boeuf or oxblood), Peach bloom, Coral red and Rose pink (or ruby-red). A generic name, after seen/used within auctions and dealers is copper red ...
The Qing Sacrificial type, Chinese 'jihong', was made in emulation of the early Ming, Yongle/Xuande periods cooper red glazes, along with 'jihong' other names include 'xianhong' (fresh blood) and 'baoshihong' (ruby red), but these early Ming reds are significantly different in terms of body, chemical composition, glaze thickness and colour tone ...
As mentioned by Mark@imperialfinegems, monochromes are a specialist area within themselves and rather difficult, even for those with good knowledge of such ...
Given the above, perhapes consider purchasing you next piece from a well known, highly regarded dealer?Pieces within auction houses, both major and provincial, require a good knowledge level when viewing ...
Stuart
@ming1449 Thank you so much. Yes, this is such a lesson for me.
I bought another one which looks like strawberry colour and I would assume that it is probably not genuine but this is the lesson we all learn I suppose. Hold my funds and speak and educate myself to people like you and this group before throwing away hard earned money.
Thanks again.
Alex
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