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Hello Friends, I would like to buy this brushpot, but before spending money, maybe find out if it is not completely new.
I have compared it with various objects at auction and museums and I find many similarities.
what do you think??
Many thanks
Piero
found a very similar brushpot for colors and quality, especially in the raised blue points, which are practically the same. I attach the link
I took some screen shots, comparing them with two close photos and they seem to have been made by the same artist.
clearly my humble visual opinion.
Hi Pietro,
I'm suspicious of the bands at the top and bottom; I've never seen them on Kangxi brush pots - although I am no expert - and the impressed detail seems off to me. Also: the bumpy blue dots. I don't think I've seen them raised like that. One other difference that I can tell: the foot of the first pot is different than the one at Bonhams.
Considering that there are a lot of reproductions out there, I would think it's a safe bet that it's not authentic.
Good luck and warm regards,
-Steve
I also feel that this is a modern reproduction. These are being faked all over the place. Save your money.
Could be Kangxi revival, late Qing. Here is one with a similar band across the top, and raised dots. Of course, it could be mis-identified in terms of age. Don't know anything about Simpson Galleries.
Lot - A CHINESE KANGXI STYLE BLUE AND WHITE PORCELAIN BRUSH POT, BITONG, QING DYNASTY, 1663-1912,
I am not convinced of an early date, either. I think the base looks quite new but I could be wrong. I just have niggling doubts as others do and I wouldn’t want to buy a piece I wasn't sure of either way. I feel it is probably a copy of a transitional/ Kangxi piece.
There is another very similar, possibly exactly the same that just sold, described as 18th c. You may want to check the price, I haven't yet, to see what buyers thought. Personally, I would rather buy something I felt better about.
https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/a-large-chinese-bitong-74-c-80c4caeab6
I lean towards late Qing. Julia has mentioned a very important point: Avoid buying pieces where the age is not easy to determine. If you ever plan to resell, potential buyers will have the same doubts and different opinions as we have now, which will affect the price.
Birgit
@steve Hello Steve, thanks to everyone as always, if in doubt I avoid buying it, also because then I would have to resell it and there are many doubts as you wrote.
Instead I bought these two porcelains because they don't seem like modern copies but from the late Qing period with the Kangxi mark. what do you think?
Thanks so much
@imperialfinegems Thanks to everyone as always, if in doubt I avoid buying it, also because then I would have to resell it and there are many doubts as you wrote.
The yellow ground one is a modern fake in my opinion. The yellow isn't quite right here for Kangxi.
These are imperial porcelain and very rare to find.
Mark
Hi Pietro -
I would concur with others comments, the brush pot is a modern copy made to deceive …
The overall composition, drawing of the ‘v-tick’ grasses, the cobalt application/shading, mouthrim and lower body incised bands and the base all look wrong, the whole seems somewhat contrived …
One most known the history of collecting such pieces, but more importantly when the first exhibitions were held, for such wares this was ‘Translational Wares and there Forerunners’, OCS Hong Kong, 1981 and also when the first academic papers published and lectures held, again not until the very early 1980’s …
Translational wares really did not start to be acquired/collected by enthusiasts until the 1960’s, before then there was little/no demand for such pieces and, consequently, no reasons to fake such. It is only in the last 40 years when, due to several exhibitions and numerous publications dedicated to these wares, that the fakers have seen ‘a demand’ and started producing copies, which have now become extremely good …
Best left well alone ….
Stuart
On the yellow one the impurities seem forced and overblown. On the green one the clean and smooth whiteness looks modern. So I'm not optimistic about either I'm afraid.
If the 2 yellow plates were sold as late Qing, that looks ok to me (or Republic, at least). I find that big repair convincing as evidence of some age. If they are modern and being sold as Kangxi, then maybe a break-to-fake makes sense
I like the luting lines on the vase, which seem to suggest it was hand-thrown and isn't modern? Maybe Republic?
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