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I've just come across this Qianlong marked 'yangcai' double-gourd vase that was available at Van Ham in 2017 (lot 2025), where it was described as probably later.
It seems to be the counterpart of a vase sold at Marchant Auctions in 2013, described as mark and period.
The six-character seal marks of the two vases are nearly identical and must have been drawn by the same hand. This also seems to be the case with the pair of similar vases sold at Sotheby's in 2012.
Is there another pair out there potentially worth millions of dollars? Or are they in fact apocryphally marked copies of later period?
Dear Corey,
To my eye the Van Ham and the Live Auctioneers vase's are the same vase. The top lotus flower is off center and seems to be encroaching over the swirl of the surrounding border. Doubt a mark and period item would have been painted like that.
On the other hand the vase on the right hand side in the Sothebys picture the lower lotus flower seems off center so that may throw my thoughts out the window.
Michael
Hi,
I think, the Live Auctioneers vase is a later copy of the Van Ham vases. If you look closely, you see that the painting on the two vases from the Van Ham Auction is of much better quality.
Chris
There was one vase at Van Ham only, not two. It's a little strange how the vase at liveauctioneers sold in 2013 can be a copy of a vase for sale four years later at Van Ham in 2017.
It's not the same vase either. There are differencies in the decoration and size of the two vases.
I don't see any notable difference in the quality of the painting of the two vases. The one at liveauctioneers seems slightly paler in color but it's the photograph I think.
The petals of the top lotus is encrouching over the swirl of the surounding foliate decoration on all four vases so that observation doesn't contribute to a correct dating in my opinion.
But to me the perfect match of the marks of the two vases is very interesting because that means that the vase sold at Marchant Auctions (via liveauctioneers) is not a fake, but actually a late Qing/early republic copy or of the Qianlong period. And I have Qianlong marked celadon vase that is identical to one sold at Marchant where it was described as mark and period too. When I posted it on this forum people commented that the pieces at Marchant were just modern fakes but I don't think so. To me it seems as I was right from the very beginning and that the vase I have is either late Qing/early republic or of the Qianlong period, but that's another story...
Oh I'm sorry. I didn't mean the Van Ham Auction vase, but the pair at the Sotheby's Auction. My mistake. In my opinion the painting on those are of much better quality .
Chris
I think the difference in quality of the painting is very subtle only. But it's interesting that the estimate of the Van Ham vase was €25,000 - 35,000 while the Marchant vase sold for $60,000 plus buyers premium.
There was by the way a notable sale of a pair of provenanced Qianlong mark and period vases at waddingtons in 2012. Estimated at ca$20,000 - 30,000 and sold for only 24,000 if I remember correctly.
As far as I can see they are yancai enamels too and also have the yellow color of the emperor. Sotheby's would be able to sell these for at least $5,000,000 I think. A comparable vase is in the imperial collection, Beijing can be seen in this link.
https://sns.91ddcc.com/t/83790
Dear Corey you are a bit optimistic in thinking that the pair could be worth five million.
The fact that it has a yellow background doesn’t necessarily means that they are imperial.
And one is damaged.
As usual, you continue bringing links to obscure places giving them an un-motivate credit: who told you that that vase is in the Imperial collection?
Best regards
Giovanni
What? Are you saying that the two vases at Waddingtons are not imperial?
Yes, it looks like there is a small repairment to the rim on one of them.
The vase in the link is also depicted in a catalogue description by Sotheby' as a reference.
A yellow-ground yangcai enamelled 'boys' vase at Christie's.
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