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Why do some sellers really lay it on so strong?
Surely this vase if original would be into the £100'000's or more. Not only is this vase not antique but the seller is "laying it on with a trowel".
Very misleading.
"THIS IS A FINE EXAMPLE OF CHINESE HAND CRAFTED PORCELAIN THIS PARTICULAR ANTIQUE IS OF THE HIGHEST QUALITY. THIS QIANLONG VASE IS OF A BLUE GLAZE SET ON A WHITE BACKGROUND. DECORATED WITH ACCURATE FLORAL AND GEOMETRIC PATTERNS THROUGHOUT WHICH ARE TYPICAL OF THE QING DYNASTY. THIS VASE SITS PERFECTLY ON A WOODEN STAND. BLUE QIANLONG SEAL MARK TO BASE. WONDERFUL GLAZE AND SHINE.
THERE IS NO MAJOR DAMAGE TO REPORT APART FROM AGE RELATED WEAR AND MINOR SURFACE MARKS. THE ANTIQUE HAS A BEAUTIFUL NATURAL PATINA AND COLOUR.
THIS PARTICULAR ANTIQUE IS A REAL FIRST FOR EBAY AND IS OF THE HIGHEST RARITY AS THIS TYPE OF QIANLONG VASE IS ONLY FOUND IN A MUSEUM OF ART AND CHINESE CULTURE.
THIS ANTIQUE IS FROM A LARGE COUNTRY ESTATE BASED IN MID-WALES.
VERY HIGH INVESTMENT ITEM AND UNIQUE TO EBAY."
Looks remarkably similar to this:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-CHINESE-BLUE-AND-WHITE-VASE-MARKED-/222834369614?_ul=GB
They are both blatant copies and judging by the bid activity, they aren't fooling anyone. You can find many similar types on being sold across the US in auctions.
Peter
Peter
Shocking that someone is going to probably end up paying over $1,000 for this vase... No wonder people keep on offering the replica's as 'antique'.
This is why the work Peter and his team do, to educate the public on Asian Arts is so important. By making available informative correct content on the web, the more likely it is that the public as a whole will become savy and stop wasting funds on fakes.
As previously discussed on this forum, there is always a place for decorative, modern items that copy the past, but they must be described as such... Otherwise it is simply fraud.
In this instance it does look like it was listed was very questionable ethics and got almost 1200 USD for a vase that had it been accurately described, maybe 200-400?
Some sellers are simply dishonest and out to deceive and others are simply ignorant but one has to remember with the ignorant sellers if they were to list a genuine vase worth alot of money how many people would be messaging them advising them telling them what it really was, advising them how to get the best price, rather than staying quiet and looking to purchase it at a cut down price?
The best way to navigate the market is to learn for yourself. Chinese antiques is definitely 'a minefield' as there are so many fakes or questionable mis-sold items about but that is part of the challenge and the bargains are still their to be had.
Sadly, some folks think they've "Discovered" something everyone has missed. It doesn't happen on the web. (or is extremely, extremely, extremely, extremely, extremely, extremely, extremely unlikely)
Peter
Peter
hi lewis and everyone, lewis, your avatar always makes me laugh and smile, sorry but I also hear this kind of cookie monster voice in your words, which I respect and agree with most of your opinions. Just wanted to say your avatar makes me smile. Too funny:)
Outrageous, it should be stopped. Everybody should report it, but eBay would probably not take it off because of the revenue.
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