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Hello All
I hope that you may find my recent purchase interesting.
Having previously bought a Yuan dynasty ceramic burnished black covered box from Brian Page Oriental Art as a birthday treat for myself, I was extra self indulgent and went on to purchase a burnished black dragon-handled cup and shallow dish, also from Matthew, to add to my seal paste box.
Although it may not be evident from my photographs, the bowl of my cup is quite thinly potted and I think that the proportions of the cup are wonderful.
I have found online that the form of my cup seems to be based on 'belt cups' with dragon handles owned by Mongolian cavalry officers and an example of a silver and gilt cup is in the Khalili collection,
Also, a very special Yuan dynasty gold cup of this type of design was sold by Christie's in 2019,
https://www.christies.com/en/lot/lot-6220777
Interestingly, in the same sale was a shallow gold dish and I think that it may be safe to assume that the form of my humble dish was based on the gold one.
https://www.christies.com/en/lot/lot-6220778
In my opinion one of the attractive elements of my cup is the metallic looking patches on both the inside and outside surface and on close inspection these are due to crystal deposits that have developed during the long by burial of these pieces.
I will not be trying to remove the remaining deposits of soil or the calcification patches on the dish as I think that these are parts of their history that should remain.
Kind regards,
Jeremy
Jeremy, I quite agree, far nicer to leave them. These pieces are amazing! Had you not said they were potted, I would have assumed, at least at first glance, that they were metal.
I enjoyed looking at the links, too. It is all very interesting, thank you!
Hello Julia
Thank you for your kind post.
I understand from Matthew Page that little has been written about these ceramic wares from kilns in the Gansu area, but the dark grey body was burnished in order to provide a black surface that seems to me to be very similar to Han dynasty amphoras.
Kind regards,
Jeremy
Thank you John. I have my items in a glass fronted display cabinet in our dinning room so that I can enjoy looking at them every day.
Kind regards,
Jeremy
Beautiful set, @jeremy! The proportions really do look great. It's funny how proportions just "click" when they're right. At first glance, it looks great. Second glance, is maybe the plate a tiny bit too small? Third glance, AHA the cup has a handle! It's perfect, the plate is the exact right size... and the universe is back in balance.
A Yuan cup with a handle is already pretty rare, let alone with its saucer. The handle almost looks like an early Chinese roof brace.
Your connection to the riding cups looks right. It's a great mix of Chinese and Central Asian influences, something the Mongols excelled at "facilitating". And the Gansu region was right in the heart of it all.
I have a Warring States burnished jar from one of the the auctions of Brian's estate. It's grey stoneware, so not thinly potted like yours. But the patina is fascinating. With a loupe and under different types/angles of light, there's a whole network of different discolorations and accretions. Some of the white mineralizations almost have a 3D optical illusion, as if you can see below the surface.
Is the foot of the plate similar to the foot on the cup?
Thanks for sharing. I'll need to look for your seal paste box post.
Hello Craig
Below are some photographs of my covered box. I was able to find a stained black, dark hardwood stand for it on eBay and although purists may not like the way that I pair my Song and Yuan pieces with much later wooden stands, it is how I like to display them on the glass shelves of my cabinet.
Kind regards,
Jeremy
Nothing wrong with putting older pieces on newer stands.
As members know genuine old stand are very expensive!
Here are just two of mine. Two jade figures. One a pair of mandarin ducks the other a white jade scholars rock. Both from the late Ming period and have 20th century stands.
Mark
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