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Hi all - I am sharing with you a very rare Teadust Red sea dragon reverse teapot from the Song dynasty period and this one has a million little oysters or clams on the bottom - take a look at the beauty.
Maybe these oysters were glued on! Maybe this old vase is fake, maybe I am deceived thinking its song Dynasty, Maybe it's a new one made this year, Maybe it's from Mexico - I better check my books again
richard severson
Hi - a few more pictures of my fake 100% fake Song dynasty vase, but the work involved to make it fake, collect the porcelain, mold the porcelain, make the animals and attach them, make the hole at bottom with a tube so that it pours, color it with red teadust, glaze it, then comes the hard part, make it look old really old, then get out the glue after collection a million tiny clams or oysters and glue them on, then drop it under the ocean for ocean smell for a few months - yes I think it is really fake but you choose lol
It`s going to clean up nice!
richard severson
I am glad that you recognize that it is 100% fake. It is not necessary a lot of study or knowledge to see that, it is evident to anyone who had a quick look at the simplest book on Song ceramic.
To anyone else reading here: Do not think that an item can't be fake because, due to the amount of work needed, it can’t be on sale for only one dollar. This is valid anywhere in the World except China. Very important.
Giovanni
Hey 'Rich', if you are real I want you to post a selfie of you holding one of these brilliant pieces and a piece of paper with the date on it.
Also they don't glue on the sea crustations, they leave it in water after treating them in a way to maximize crustations. It's very common, but I am sure you know this already.
I`m convinced now how fake it is by these few things...
1) the little oysters don`t taste right, I could have added a little soy sauce though
2) I have never seen this style so it has to be fake
3) Come on Red tea dust what the hell is that
4) the hole at bottom is so large the earth could fit in it
5) if it was real it would be worth a lot of money - so it has to be fake
6) How could one guy have so many real items, he would be so rich, Hum my name is Rich
7) It can`t be real because some forum members said their not real
8) some members said their ugly, real ones are not ugly
9) 2018 there are no real porcelains left, it must be fake
10) 99.9% of porcelains are fake, I better buy only from Sotheby`s and Christie`s
richard severson
Thegoldentoad - I will go halfway with you, remember that beautiful Song dynasty blue cobalt vase? let me show you that plus somethings I never showed like Shang dynasty white jade (4 1/2 pds) just like the Ivory that was found in Fu Hao`s tomb unless you want to see something I have with Fu Hao`s name on it
Here is Fu hao`s Ivory in case some has not seen it 1200 B.C.
richard severson
White Shang dynasty Jade
richard severson
Dear Peter Comb,
now I reached my limit. Please read Richard’s post above. You can’t say that I did not made all my efforts to try to push him in the right path, and mainly for the prestige of the Forum.
In my previous post to him I deliberately ignored that in his previous post he was sarcastic, and did it in a further tentative of convincing him to be collaborative.
Now if you will read his answer you must admit that he is no more tolerable. I am not here for being insulted by him nor to be teased like the idiot of the village.
Frankly, I am surprised by the fact that you did not take action up to now, as if you were not interested in the credibility of the Forum. I sincerely hope that it could be because you are probably not reading all the posts.
Please act as an Administrator should do in cases like this; if not, I must conclude that the Forum is not worth to be considered, hence I will take my decision.
Giovanni
Giovanni, calm down. You can't save the world, so let it be. Put your effort to other community members. Richard doesn't need you.
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Xin is right, just ignore him. It’s not worth the trouble.
Birgit
Dear Xin,
thank you.
You are right in principle, but it is just for the other members that I am worried. As you see, some members already fallen in his trap, thinking that his trash could be ok.
A Forum has zero credibility if all this is tolerated. Is credible a Forum where genuine Chinese art is displayed together with crap things and both are admitted as being ok, to the eyes of not experienced members?
Giovanni
Have you tried to contact Peter directly? I’m not sure if he reads the posts.
Birgit
Dear Shinigami,
I did it immediately after having invited him to check all this.
I think that he is not following what is going on here, one can't make fun and offend all the members here, besides discredeting the Forum in its whole.
Giovanni
Heh, come on 'Rich', post a selfie of you holding one of these pieces and a piece of paper with the date on it to prove who you are. All that photo proves is that you have a pen & paper and access to some fake items. At the moment you are coming off as a fake account.
Goivanni - Like I told you before it`s not my beautiful stuff that bothers you, it's me, other members told you right they said richard don`t want your comments, I don`t want your point view, I don`t need it and don`t value it, and that bothers you
So I can`t leave a comment on anyone`s porcelain without you telling them how wrong I am and how right you are, then when I comment back you cry, you want someone else to step in, you made the mess but want someone else to clean it, something is really wrong with you
Hear it now again, don`t comment on my stuff, Don`t violate my post with your trashy comments and negative points of view
even when one says something good about my post you attack them too, you write half pages how they are wrong and you are right
The quiet ones do not want to be attacked by you and ridiculed by you, I stand for them and know that something is so wrong with you
So you felt like the idiot of the village I wonder why that is, I make a joke, and you take everything serious and personal, I never said anyone`s name,
You say something serious and I take it lightly, I am the one that should be complaining, I am just posting my beautiful Chinese antiques and for some reason, you think you have to go to war with me, You said I am dangerous, Oh my such words
Protect the forum from me, Oh my
I think you should go cry to your mother
and one more thing if you continue to bash my antiques and myself I will then stoop to your level and not be respectable like you are not to me and I will let you know what I really think of you
richard severson
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