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Hi Corey,
The first jade fish from christies is a stunning example. Beautiful color, rendered along with weathered skin with a nice finish. Agreed the carving lines are a bit amateur in nature.
The next one from the museum looks OK where the carver has used the color of the jade to compliment the fish. However it is still difficult to tell!
The next one from christies showing the russet features is what you would like to see. Not really spotty as such. More so, intense with fading. Beautiful and highly collectable example. Fakes are not like this. They are almost always very spotty.
The last one from alamy is not genuine imo. The carving style is all over the place. No finer detail with the facial features or hands. And the horse......... Typical type of fantasy style carving coming onto the market in recent times.
Not sure who or what alamy site is. Looks like a sort of anyone can post. His other jade items are dubious in part.
Corey, what area/country do you reside in, if I may ask?
Mark
I'm in Copenhagen, the capital of Denmark in northern Europe.
The jade fish plaque is copied from an article posted on this site by Peter but I belive it is in the imperial collection, probably NPM, so that one is almost certainly authentic. An archaistic axe blade dated to early Qing in the same material is also depicted in one of my books so they have probably favored that material at that time. That book also shows many examples of Ming dynasty jades that has the same crude wormanship in all kind strange jade materials, so they probably liked them like that.
I should probably have checked more carefully on the two jades from the alamy site but since it is noted that they are a gift of Patricia G. Cohan (whoever that is) I was thinking that they are probably in a museum somewhere. I've checked now and it seems I was right and that they are at the LACMA (Los Angeles County Museum of Art).
Thank you Corey.
I asked because I thought by chance, you might have resided in San Francisco where the legendary jade appraiser Sam Bernstein has a retail outlet who also holds a few times each year special luncheons dedicated to the art of collecting jade objects for a select/limited number of places.
Mark
You're very welcome. I actually learned a lot in the process of researching myself. I regularly visit Sam Bernstein's site since I find it very inspirational. I would also like to read some of his books but his lectures a a bit too far away from me.
/Corey
Yes, and they are also sometimes available on Amazon. Said dealer actually have a couple of related plaques for sale on his site that also shares the roughly carved openwork. https://bernsteinjadeart.com/dragon-pendant-with-rotating-disk https://bernsteinjadeart.com/white-nephrite-jade-pierced-work-pendant Additionally he has a nice jadeite belthook that compares to a belthook also sold for a good price by the same eBay-seller. https://bernsteinjadeart.com/orange-white-jadeite-belt-hook https://www.ebay.com/itm/A-WELL-CARVED-LARGE-ANTIQUE-CHINESE-PALE-CELADON-amp-RUSSET-JADE-BELT-BUCKLE-/233364018334?hash=item365594549e%3Ag%3ApjEAAOSwjzldnSL8&nma=true&si=oczCnQY0%252F%252BX00C3%252BnkahYW%252BjMlg%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
For readers interested in learning about the history of styles/motifs used on jade there is currently one book by Prof Jessica Rawson titled Neolithic to Qing jades available in the UK for about 14 euros plus postage.
This book is an excellent resource book used by professionals including sothebys and christies as well as retail outlets/appraiser's.
Well worth the money as normally a used copy sells for in excess of US 70+.
Mark
I wonder if this reticulated jade plaque from I. M Chait is actually a Yuan/Ming example rather than a 19th century copy as stated by the auctioneer since it sold for $3,250 aginst a $400 - $600 estimate. And I assume the price posted at liveauctioneers site does not include buyer's premium? https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/80468334_19th-century-chinese-elaborately-carved-openwork-jade No matter what, it is still a nice jade plaque. I like it.
The dragon jade plaque was a beautiful example as noted by you.
I posted it originally along with the other because I thought that it appeared to be cheap. Unfortunately there was no pictures of the reverse etc. However, like you I am confident that it was much older than 19th century.
The sale price did not include the buyers premium. Said ptice achieved confirms the probable age and quality. Dragon jade plaques are very hot at the moment.
If it turns out to be earlier petiod of Yuan-Ming then the price would still be attractive imo.
Mark
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