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The box lid has broken at the hinge (it was bought this way)
do I bring it to a jeweler and try to mend the box
or
try to remove the buckle??
The bottom of the box is marked "China"
Please discuss
Hi it is difficult to say one way or the other from the pictures. They are not clear. It appears that there is a stone or other imbed into the lid that may or maybe not jade. If it us Jade then it is worth fixing. The lid has 2 hinges and I assume the base has one. A very fine tube could be inserted if there isn't one already there.
The only thing I don't like is the base material that had been used.
Mark
Dear Cargoquartz,
If you are lucky enough to have a manufacturing Jeweler close to hand they should be able to construct something. Most high street type Jewelers now-days just seem like retailers. Can I ask does your box have an insert in the lid from the photo it looks a little like jade or some-other stone hope you don't mind me asking. Maybe a skilled fitter and turner could be of help. There's always Yellow Pages.
Cheers
Michael
I have the same problem with a Cartier inkwell. But my one still has the insert in the two hinges.
Mark
Dear Mark,
If you just need the hinge pin a skilled jeweler or other competent metal worker should be able to fix that. Does the box look like it has an insert to you or is just my old eyes.
Michael
Hi Michael,
Thanks for the info.
No I can not see said hinge on the post. I only sort of assumed since I have the same problem. If the thread joining the two hinges can be removed easily then job done more or less. If the thread is still visual on the two ends, that is if you can still see them then the problems are not so easily fixed and will require someone with expertise etc.
Cost is always a factor when looking to repair items. As this box appears to be made of a base metal rather than say silver the question comes to mind. Is it worth fixing.
If the insert is Jade I would say yes. If it is not Jade then no. The only exception being if this box is of sentimental value.
Mark
Mark:
If the insert is in fact jade does the mixed green and white color conform with any particular type of jade?
Can we assume if the bottom of the box is marked "China" that we are dealing with a post 1890 item? I looked this up on gotheborg.com and found the following somewhat confusing description of the significance of the CHINA stamp:
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The traditional wisdom has it that between around 1890 until c. 1920 all Chinese items that were to be imported into the US was required to be marked with the word "CHINA" as the country of origin (U.S. Stamp Act of 1894). Quite some uncomplicated research i. e. searching on the Internet confirms that this was not entirely true. Some were marked and some not. It is also far from certain that the practice of marking porcelain with the word CHINA actually ended in the 1920. Some porcelain I have found in Singapore marked in such way, the dealers have been very adamant that it dated to the 1970s. From 1919 the word "CHINA" should have been replaced by the phrase "Made in China" but despite this the single word "CHINA" occurred on pieces made well in to the 1960 and 1970s especially if other markets than North America are considered. Regards, Errol |
it's not sentimental and I didn't pay much, but I dont want to ruin it more if it would be the responsible thing to do to fix itm.
the stone is really icy light green jadeite, and I have seen the bezel/ stone combo somewhere online as a "belt buckle in gilt fitting. "
the box has really fine engraving and is a fine object, I just wonder, is there a belt buckle in between the jade/bezel and the 20th c. box? I notice alot of old items were remade into newer items more useful to common times.
The term mottle white with green or vice-a-versa jadeite Jade became very fashionable during the early 20th century.
The item on this thread could well be something that has been converted from one to another. It is as I have outlined very difficult to determine from the low quality pictures.
Mark
Dear All,
The insert bezel it's self looks older and better made and be of better quality than the box to my eye and the photo's . The bezel looks like it has been silver soldered onto the box. It should be easy to remove for close inspection and be easily reapplied latter. What I am trying to say is the bezel and the insert look like they belong together and the box is a latter thought. If the bezel is bronze and the insert is in fact jade you could have something of value. I am sure that a competent metal worker could remove the bezel repair the box, reapply the bezel at reasonable cost. If you get the bezel removed and inspected you will know more. With better photo's of the bezel and the stone insert free of box so the light can do it magic on the stone there are experts here who could tell you whether you have an old carved jade.
With prices paid for old jade I think it would be worth you investing a little money ,time and effort into this box.
Michael
Here is a closer photo of the bezel and jadeite insert
Thanks all for the insight.
I thought the item may be somewhat comparable to this:
it appears the buckle was lead-soldered onto the brass box
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