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Hi Carl -
Attached images of a similar dish, D. 14cm, with Foo dog, ribbons and various ‘precious emblems’ currently for sale at Brian Page Antiques, although its rather under fired!! Such pieces varied in quality and were made in large numbers from the late 15th to the mid 16th century ...
Stuart
Carl, I particularly like the horse bowl. What a great buy!
Hey guys. My journey through time and space of the world of antiques started just a bit ago and I am already drowning. The amount of information is..massive. I love it. So, recently found this little thing (miniature vase?) standing so lonely and abandoned in some second hand shop. In my region there are basically only russian/checz/german pieces of porcelain to be found, so it was pretty wow
Can't upload the second pic tho 🙂
Cheers
Hi Alina,
Welcome to this fantastic forum!
From what I can see, your vase appears to have Japanese markings. I am unable to inform you what the markings are but I am sure others will be able to help.
Look forward to viewing the rest of the vase in due course.
Mark
Alina, Can’t really tell you much based on the one photo other than it is most likely Japanese. Would be interested to see the second photo.
George
Thank you guys for the warm welcome!
Update:
Hi Alina,
Based on your picture I still think it is probably Japanese and from 20th century.
Nice and very unusual shape in my opinion. It reminds me of something I can't recall atm.
A nice little find. 👌
Mark
Hi Alina -
As with Mark and George - welcome to this great forum ...
Stuart
Got this recently, Chinese Republic blue & white Cadogan or puzzle tea pot. not sure what the mark is, shop mark?
- Austin
Hi, can't help with the mark. In regards of the age of your teapot, I would suggest to consider a later period (post 1950). The glaze looks modern, the decoration aren't what you would expect and there is no age signs for an utilitarian object.
I have been far from the Forum for a few days.
Dear Carl, bowls like your one, with that exact motif, have been discussed by Monique Crick in a book, where she dated them as first half of 16th century.
Bowls with this motif has been discussed several times on Gotheborg. How strange that at the National Palace they do not know the motif.
Here is the story:
“Wang Zhaojun was one of the four well known beauties of ancient China. She had entered the harem of the Emperor Yuan of the Western Han (48-33 BC). The emperor had a large harem of maidens (3000) and was in the habit of choosing his favored companions by the pictures painted by the court painters. The painters demanded bribes from the maidens to paint a flattering portrait of themselves to increase their chance of being chosen by the emperor. Wang, being confident of her own beauty refused to pay the bribe to Mao Yan Shou who then painted an unflatering portrait of Wang. As a result Wang was never chosen by the emperor and for several years spent her time waiting and playing her Pipa in the courtyard of the ladies in waiting.
When the northern barbarous Hun Xiongnu chieftan, Huhanxie became a subject of the Han, he asked for one of the princesses for a wife to consolidate the Han relations with Xiongnu. The emperor Yuan reluctantly agreed to this audacious request, but was not willing to give up one of his daughters. Instead he decided to give up the least desirable of the concubines. He chose Wang Zhaojun from the unflattering portrait painted by Mao Yan Shou. When Wang was presented to Huhanxie, the emperor realized his mistake, but did not go back on his word, sending Wang Zhaojun to be the wife of the barbarous northern chieftain. Mao Yan Shou, all of the court painters and their families were subsequently put to death for deceiving the emperor.
Wang Zhaojun's story is told in this poem titled 'Song of Mingfei'.
When Mingfei left the palace of Han,
Face damp with tears, hair hanging loose,
Turning her lowered head she gazed back, expressionless.
And her sovereign could not restrain his anguish.
Blame lay in an artist's hand,
Few had he seen so pleasing to the eye.
Yet the source of such beauty was not painted;
Mao Yanshou was killed at once.
Departing, she knew, never to return,
Pitiable in the costume of the Han court.
Her plaintive voice asking for news of the south.
Where only the swan geese flew and returned each year.
Messages sent by her family, ten thousand li,
So that she in the foreign land will not pine.
Close by, Chang'an gate has locked out the beauty,
Life's aspirations thwarted by neither north nor south.
This tragic story has been retold recently with Wang Zhaojun recast as a hero, volunteering herself to help pacify the warring northern neighbors of the Han.”
I would like to add that in most of these bowls, one of the horses is carrying two riders, one of them looking back and holding something. I haver it in my bowl. It is no doubt the girl carrying her pipa, looking back at her home.
At the bottom of the bowl is the girl seated under a tree, showing her sad lonely
Regards,
Giovanni
Thanks, Giovanni. That is quite a story and wonderful background to the decoration; thank you for sharing it.
This story was first depicted on blue and white ceramics in the Yuan Dynasty. Attached images are of a large guan, H 28.4 cm, in the Idemitsu Museum of Arts, Japan, the main body decorated with scenes from this story.
Such known Yuan guans, all with differing drama/stories scenes, are incredible rare ...
Stuart
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