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Alesia
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01/11/2019 1:16 am  

@shinigami

Even though I'm probably not suppose to (confession time)....I actually loosened the screws at the bottom to look inside the lamps at the thrift store before buying them....I realized then they were made to be lamps......but they are so pretty and were only $30 for the pair......so I couldn't resist


   
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01/11/2019 4:12 am  

Hi Alesia,

it was very thoughtful from you to look inside before you bought. Wish everyone would be so considerate before buying Chinese lamps. I just meant to say that these vases are no hidden gems that are more valuable without the electric fittings but are nice modern lamps. 

Birgit


   
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02/11/2019 12:30 am  

As of late it seems I am thrifting more often......so this is todays purchase of  $8!!....so that was good.....when I initially saw the vase at first I thought it was Japanese and I  thought the relief work was done in bronze.....but the style looks Chinese, maybe early to mid 20th century?..........Please share your information on it........Thanks!..........  


   
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02/11/2019 8:01 pm  

Hello,littebear

I have seen this style of vase before if I remember I’ll let you know, I like the rabbit it look to have some 

age to it. You never know what you will find in thrift stores keep looking. John


   
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03/11/2019 1:09 am  

@ming1449

Thank you for the welcome


   
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03/11/2019 2:05 am  

Hi everyone!.....this is one of my thrift purchases within the past year.....this foot bath looks to be Chinese .....I'm guessing early to mid 20th century?....I'm not sure........but can I ask?.....what to use to safely clean porcelain?.......this had some type of stain in the bottom from a liquid.....and because it is a foot bath basin?....I wasn't sure what was in it previously..... so I used lots of  hot water and a little bleach & dawn  to clean it....but the outside& handles have quite a bit of  gilding....the handles became a little sticky to the touch for a while after I washed it... I usually like to clean the things that I buy...porcelain, glass etc....(not wood or metals)........so my go to for a quick clean of porcelain is a quick wipe with alcohol.....but most of the porcelain that I find can be a little grimy, so I usually wash the porcelain in warm water and a little dawn dish detergent.....but I don't use neither alcohol or dawn if the porcelain has gilding on it as with this bowl....so I just use a little water.......Your input will be greatly appreciated......Thanks!............  


   
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03/11/2019 3:21 am  

From the style rather 2nd half of the 20th century in my opinion. If there’s gilding present you can’t be too careful with the cleaning. Better stick to dishwasher detergent. Without gilding you can use a laundry detergent bath and on underglaze blue you can use almost everything. 

Birgit


   
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04/11/2019 8:13 pm  

I agree with Birgit on dating. Especially with the cobalt blue 'made in china'.

Not sure if the gilding is real or not. Looks very much like gold paint. 

Mark 


   
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05/11/2019 3:49 pm  

I was told that bleach is really bad for ceramics, I know it destroys pottery, but porcelain is much stronger so it may withstand it. Liquid peroxide (the kind they use on hair) is excellent on fully glazed pieces. On anything else, a soak in a warm bath with (maybe) some mild washing up liquid is about the best. Dust and grime will come out from a warm bath, use a very soft toothbrush in the nooks and crannies. But with gilding, just soak for a few hours then gently wipe whatever’s left with soft tissues.

The stain at the bottom is probably from someone keeping a houseplant in there. You may need peroxide to get that out.

Nic


   
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07/11/2019 1:07 am  

Hi,

I have posted this before but old posts can get lost so will repeat denture cleaning tablets dissolved in water and items left to soak over night in the mixture come out clean. Removes dirt grime and stains. Really bad stains may need longer a longer soaking. I find that say a dinner size plate that is badly stained 3 tablets in a 5 gallon bucket gives good results.  I did once post some pic's showing the results with a food jar but cant find the post or the pic's sorry. 

Michael 


   
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08/11/2019 2:34 am  

Hi everyone!.....I was at a recent Estate sale and I did purchase a few items ......but there were other things I wanted to buy but they were out of my range or I wasn't sure if it was worth the purchase....#1 is a large Moon Flask in vivid color complete with characters facial detail I thought was great....needless to say I was in love, but wasn't sure if it was worth the 50% off the $595......(it was the last day of the Estate sale so everything was 50% off).......#2 is the large purple Flambe Glaze looking lamp $495 ($247)....the had it tagged as American Pottery??.....but it looked like Chinese Flambe Glaze and with the wooden Chinese base....I thought it was Chinese....#3 there were 3 Chinese lamps that were labled correctly.....however...it hurt me to leave the Moon flask and purple glaze lamp.....but none the less.....I would like to know if anyone thinks that the Moon Flask was authentic?....and what about the price?too high or too low?.....and the Flambe type lamp....Chinese flambe?.....or American?  


   
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Alesia
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08/11/2019 3:30 am  

Its been 5 days since the Estate sale, and I have regrets.....Moon Flask are scarce, especially at 18 in, I think I should have taken the chance and purchased the Moon Flask instead of walking away


   
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08/11/2019 4:16 am  

Hi Alesia,

I think it is more the case that genuine moon flasks are scarce.  I would imagine there are probably a hundred or more on ebay.

Unfortunately, I can't tell much from the pictures, I don't know a lot anyway but the one that most makes me want to pick it up is the $195 lamp but I doubt I would pay that for it.

You should always buy things because you like them.  If you feel you've missed out because you really liked them that is a shame, if it is regret because you think they may have been worth more, I would console myself with the thought that had they been valuable items, they probably would have sold quickly.

Sorry I can't be more helpful, but keep hunting, you never know what you might find.

Julia


   
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09/11/2019 1:49 am  

@julia

Yes....I feel I missed out because I really liked the moon flask, I love the pieces with figures, colorful scenes etc......I've been collecting about a year now....and I often go to quite a few different places and I have never found a Moon flask  like this with scenes etc......around here they are scarce as hens teeth.....the only other one I've seen in person and purchased  was a more modern, red enamel with a leaf type design in gold and matching charger (below) .....but here in the mid west....in this area the people attending were more interested purchasing the high-end furniture, artwork, designer clothing, purses etc....it was crowed...there was a line of people waiting outside when I left......and yes I did tell myself that it probably wasn't valuable to help ease the pain.....lol!!......  


   
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09/11/2019 1:19 pm  

My most recent aquistion is the rest of Edmund Grundner's South East Asia blue and white collection that he has left me for a very attractive price. I really like South East Asian ceramics. Contrary to Chinese ceramics nice old items are still affordable. Different ages have different and typical styles that aren't too difficult to recognize with the help of books. And of course they have a rustic charm that I love.

The jarlets on the upper tier are rather small, between 2 and 7 cm high. They are all Vietnamese apart from the white Song jarlets in the back row, a Yuan jarlet and the brown Khmer vase.

Birgit


   
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