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Sharon P
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Topic starter 09/05/2022 4:48 pm  

A recent topic on the forum has me trying to decide the fate of some bogus R.S. Prussia that stung me in the late nineteen-seventies. I thought about putting them inside a sack and taking a hammer to them, but they are pretty and one is handpainted, so I think I will mark on the back with a black Sharpie 'Reproduction' and donate them to a charity shop? At the moment they reside in a cabinet beneath the laundry room sink, where they have been for many years, as a constant reminder. I do not want them to fool anyone else in the future.


   
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John Guerrero
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09/05/2022 5:01 pm  

I'm curious what others will say. I'm in the same boat, Sharon. I'm not quite sure what to do with the naked European dancer plate or the British arms cup and saucer. I think it's too easy for an unscrupulous purchaser to remove the sharpie mark and flip it with someone else, though. I have mine supporting other pieces at the bottom of a stack. 


   
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Brian Crowe
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09/05/2022 11:16 pm  

Target practice 


   
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10/05/2022 1:58 am  

There is the chance that in a charity shop they won't cost much and it may give someone the chance to make a cheap mistake. Someone may just think they are pretty, I certainly don't think I would know that RS Prussia was a valuable item.

Or you could put them to one side and when you really feel the need to express anger, smash one of them. 


   
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Sharon P
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Topic starter 10/05/2022 10:26 am  

I mulled it over and I think I will take my dremel and try to sand off the bogus mark and if I break them in the process, then it is accidental and I will not feel guilty in destroying the work of others.


   
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10/05/2022 11:47 am  

@sharonp 

Hey Sharon,

I meant to respond yesterday, but was having an off day, and forgot.  I see you mentioned a dremel... in the past when I had a fake Meissen, mind you it was a very good fake, but the mark didn't match the design(it wasn't made for another 50 years), I used my dremel to write "Fake" over the mark and stained it with leather dye, which is nearly impossible to remove from the porcelain.  My friend thought it was over kill, but I figured there is always someone out there willing to rip someone else off, so better do it for my sanity.  As with my fake Chinese pieces (Marked ones I mean), I keep them if I like them, and if not I do as Brian suggests, take them to my buddy's range, and help them return to this earth as the clay dust they once were.

Cheers,

Jeremy

 


   
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10/05/2022 1:27 pm  

Jeremy, I like that idea very much! I have a fake Republic brush pot and use it as such, for holding brushes that I use for restoration. If I had the right tool I’d also write fake on it. 

Sharon you inspired me to google for R.S.Prussia, a brand I had never heard or seen before. Not really my taste to be honest but as it’s a German brand I would have expected to see it on flea markets or in shops. They probably produced mainly for export. 

Birgit


   
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Sharon P
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Topic starter 10/05/2022 2:21 pm  

The dremel worked like a charm to remove the bogus marks, they are off to the Salvation Army shop tomorrow, the bad news is I remembered two more pieces with bogus marks, took those off as well, I wore a mask and safety goggles. When I Googled R S Prussia I saw several I believe are repros, one seller said reproduction from the nineteen-sixties. I have some other projects to unload as well, a half finished quilt and some needlepoint I will never finish, along with assorted old silver plate that I intended to use for silk floral shabby chic arrangements, now I think silk florals are more shabby than chic. 🤣 


   
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11/05/2022 6:04 am  

Shabby chic, has always been more shabby than chic i my mind. 
Ron


   
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11/05/2022 7:15 am  

If an item's mere presence invokes an unpleasant memory, best to get rid of it...in one way or another. However, if its a type you think you might encounter again, it could be useful for comparison in the future. 

take it with a grain of salt


   
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Sharon P
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Topic starter 11/05/2022 10:52 am  

@watership Yes, it invokes unpleasant memories even to the extent of completely forgetting about two more pieces of fake R S Prussia, so now two unmarked plates and two small porcelain shoes "for a Victorian dressing table to receive hairpins and such," according to the shop owner, but they are now just unmarked porcelain shoes and just like the plates, one is transfer and one has handpainting, although it might be some painted highlights over a transfer. Someone can pay a couple of dollars for them at the charity shop and get a 'look'. Apparently a great deal of this stuff was circulating through little antique shops in the seventies, doubtful they were acquired the customary way from pickers, which would indicate knowledge on the part of shop owners, live and learn.


   
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Topic starter 11/05/2022 10:59 am  

@ronm Agree, although with the right photographer they could make a tarnished old silver plate pitcher with silks look quite charming in the decorating magazines.


   
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12/05/2022 1:52 am  
Posted by: @sharonp

@watership Yes, it invokes unpleasant memories even to the extent of completely forgetting about two more pieces of fake R S Prussia, so now two unmarked plates and two small porcelain shoes "for a Victorian dressing table to receive hairpins and such," according to the shop owner, but they are now just unmarked porcelain shoes and just like the plates, one is transfer and one has handpainting, although it might be some painted highlights over a transfer. Someone can pay a couple of dollars for them at the charity shop and get a 'look'. Apparently a great deal of this stuff was circulating through little antique shops in the seventies, doubtful they were acquired the customary way from pickers, which would indicate knowledge on the part of shop owners, live and learn.

I think the use case is an advantage of pieces that are less valuable. 

A part of me feels weird keeping ceramics as artwork when they were built to function, so its nice to have a few docorated pieces that Im comfortable using for dining.

I vote for not smashing.


   
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