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 John steward
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Topic starter 15/08/2018 5:36 pm  

I would like to no if you seen this base and foot rim with no ware would you by it.

the cracking is there but no ware. 

thanks John


   
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15/08/2018 6:46 pm  

Dear John. 

The funny thing is that if one us suddenly saw a piece like this Ru-ware on an auction or anywhere else with a price of $1000 we would might just shake out heads and walk away. ?

I am in London atm and if I got time tomorrow will I stop by the British Museum and look at some goodies like this one. ?

Best regards

Adrian

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Topic starter 15/08/2018 7:46 pm  

Here some base and mark you'll mite like ,John 

 

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Topic starter 15/08/2018 7:52 pm  

Hello , Adrian

I know I seen one in a small junk shop pass on it. It look like we all put to much on ware and marks

and not the whole picture so how do we judge something like this Sotheby has sold pieces with red Qing long mark we all said was wrong or on later pieces. John


   
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15/08/2018 9:25 pm  

Hi- many pieces were not really used, they sat on a shelf and if it happened to been in a shipwreck it would look like new hundreds of years later, glaze is really tough stuff, glaze comes from the word glass and is like glass that hard, if it did not have a glazed foot then I would be more concerned

My concern with this piece is that really white porcelain spur marks, it is said that Ru ware is stoneware and not porcelain, and should have grey ash spur marks not white

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16/08/2018 8:28 am  

Picture from today ?


   
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16/08/2018 8:53 am  

This one has a very good provenance. Once from a private museum collection.

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16/08/2018 9:32 am  

Guten tag Xin. ?

Here is the other side.  Saw some very amazing things today.

Have you visited the British Museum before?

- Adrian

 

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16/08/2018 9:33 am  

*One of almost simmilar


   
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Topic starter 16/08/2018 10:19 am  

Hello, Numismarts

I can only visit it on Line they have some great pieces, i came across this kangxi vase that 100%

molded sold at Sotheby's to show they been molding vase for some time now. Or there sell fakes.

John


   
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Posted by: Numismarts

Guten tag Xin. ?

Here is the other side.  Saw some very amazing things today.

Have you visited the British Museum before?

- Adrian

 

Hej Adrian,

Not yet, I really want to visit this museum. I know it's the most famous collection of the world!

Nice to see your pics. Thanks for sharing!

Xin

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www.Wyssemaria-Art.com
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17/08/2018 6:36 am  

I trust Sotheby's a lot, they and Christies are the best. Have bought some art from them and they know their stuff.

Any comments om that piece Xin? Can't really be moulded?!

-Adrian

Ps let me know if you are in London sometime. Would like you as my guide ?


   
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Posted by: Numismarts

I trust Sotheby's a lot, they and Christies are the best. Have bought some art from them and they know their stuff.

Any comments om that piece Xin? Can't really be moulded?!

-Adrian

Ps let me know if you are in London sometime. Would like you as my guide ?

I would be very glad to meet you and visit museums together with you. Please find my email in "My Profile". You can write me if you want.

Monochromes are the most difficult area to study. This museum is a very nice place to study them.  ?  ? 

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Topic starter 17/08/2018 10:18 am  

Hello, Adrian 

This is Sotheby's saying it molded not mine and I agree I trust them I uses 

them for reference all the time. I posted this to show we put to much on ware

I have seen things that they sell that look like it was made yesterday. I really

want to thank all the members for there help. John


   
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