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I would love to know how to clean Antique Porcelain. I know each type may require different methods and cleaning materials to prevent damaging the vase or fading the color. Also I understand with damaged porcelain you will most likely dissolve the old glue.
However bearing that in mind,
Can I soak 18th century Famille rose in normal detergent used for washing clothes ( not chlorine based). Will this effect the quality of the colours on any of the items i have listed below ?
Can I soak Satsuma blue cobalt in detergent?
What about this Nippon Nishiki vase
This China blue and white - what i assume is a Kangxi 18th century has alot of old mould from an old repair that i want to wash off. Can i soak this in detergent .
With most items, the only thing you have to worry about is gilding and subjecting the piece to high temperatures. If the piece is only underglaze and enamel decorated I would cover it in paint stripper and leave it a few days.
Dear Short Dong,
porcelain, glazes and enamelòs are very strong. Do not worry at all.
The varnish of old restoration, yellowed by age, that is on your Qianlong (not Kangxi) dish will come out very easy with acetone.
For hardest materials like old glues you can even use paint stripper as suggested by Thegoldentoad.
Giovanni
The first step I take is cleaning the item in the sink like you would wash your usual eating dishes. Soaking in hand warm laundry detergent for a few hours is my second step, if necessary. It’s not aggressive and removes a lot of dirt. Then you can progress to stronger methods like the ones mentioned above. Always soak in water well between applying different chemicals
Be careful if there’s gold applied to the decoration. Even laundry detergent can affect this, but the usual washing-up liquid is ok.
Birgit
I think I recall reading on Gotheborg that certain types of dishwasher products are good but I can't remember which ones. Those with certain enzymes, maybe? Or possibly those without - could be an important distinction, maybe someone else knows which?
Agree with all above.
Enzymes can also be really good for a general clean as Julia mentions, foot rims etc. Especially with hairline cracks it is really good to soak them in enzyme water and then use pressurized water on them using a dental device, most of the time it will remove the dirt. If this doesn't work you can leave peroxide on the crack for a month or longer and it should bleach the dirt. The main issue is when you encounter metal based staining in the cracks. You can heat up the peroxide to speed up the process but this can be risky for the integrity of the porcelain. Once cleaned, you can then secure the hairline by soaking specialist thinned epoxy into the crack such as
Best wishes.
Thanks Guys and thank you Giovanni,
The paint stripper sounds crazy but i can see why i might end up there. I am going to read up more on this subject but this has been a huge help for me. I was waiting to hear horror stories about color fading and so forth or in the case of the famille rose it just melting away.
Hxtal
That must be the stuff the Royal Palace Porcelain restorer used in the video. I was always wondering what that was, wont be easy to source but thanks, now i know what it is.
Thanks Guys and thank you Giovanni,
The paint stripper sounds crazy but i can see why i might end up there. I am going to read up more on this subject but this has been a huge help for me. I was waiting to hear horror stories about color fading and so forth or in the case of the famille rose it just melting away.
Hxtal
That must be the stuff the Royal Palace Porcelain restorer used in the video. I was always wondering what that was, wont be easy to source but thanks, now i know what it is.
well remembered, yes that is the one.
The best restorers seem to use this method.
I think I recall reading on Gotheborg that certain types of dishwasher products are good but I can't remember which ones. Those with certain enzymes, maybe? Or possibly those without - could be an important distinction, maybe someone else knows which?
Oxygen i think they recommended
Dear Julia and Thegoldentoad,
it is me who described on Gotheborg the method of soaking a piece in dishwasher detergent with enzymes (almost all them have nowadays) and then use a dental pick pump for cleaning the hairlines and cracks.
But Short Dong did ask about removing the old glue, and for that, in my experience, if acetone will not work the only way that I have found has been the paint stripper.
I did use very strong paint strippers on famille rose, gold gilded pieces with no problem.
Giovanni
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