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Martin Osterwalder
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Topic starter 27/01/2021 9:45 am  

https://www.ebay.com/itm/A-CHINESE-POTTERY-TILE-DRAGON-MING-DYNASTY-/274652090055

I actually sold this in spring 2020 to the present owner in Canada ...he bougth it for almoust 1400 Dollars.

I must say i did not advert it als ming i remeber using the term "Old".

I think he should join this forum , this would help him to date Items correct. (see his other listings ..and try not to Laugh)

with best wishes fro Switzerland

Martin

 


   
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27/01/2021 10:17 am  

Hello Martin,

Quite like that carved dragon panel. He has some high resolution pictures available will have a closer look in the morning when I get up. Also saw a bowl with nice butterflies which maybe be worth a closer look. As far as your old item go's it looks like he is going to take a bath.

Michael 


   
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Martin Osterwalder
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Topic starter 27/01/2021 10:38 am  

@brettm  I just realised that Peter talked about 3 of this sellers  items in his last video


   
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Martin Osterwalder
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Topic starter 27/01/2021 2:01 pm  
Posted by: @brettm

Hello Martin,

Quite like that carved dragon panel. He has some high resolution pictures available will have a closer look in the morning when I get up. Also saw a bowl with nice butterflies which maybe be worth a closer look. As far as your old item go's it looks like he is going to take a bath.

Michael 

That carving also came from Switzerland but not from me here is the link  to the closed Auction.

( You need to scroll down a lill bit to see it )

https://www.ricardo.ch/de/a/alte-asiatische-handgeschnitzte-relief-1141808210/

 


   
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27/01/2021 7:05 pm  

@webboy

I forgot what he said about the pair of celadon vases. 


   
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Topic starter 28/01/2021 4:53 am  

@steve

Peter said that he thinks they are not guangxu, but  early republic period, the marking on these seem not rigth .  As you can see the seller put links  leading to a pair identical to this one sold at an Auctionhouse .

IMO buy from recomended sellers and always leave a bid.

 

 

 

 

     

 


   
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Adams Asian Art
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28/01/2021 5:49 am  

The Zitan dragon plaque is a absolutely stunning example.

In my opinion it's 18th century and genuine. Looks like it was part of a cabinet or other. Would be a fantastic thing to own. The current price is very cheap! 

Here is a similar one sold by Christies in 2014 for £12,250.

Mark 

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28/01/2021 6:19 am  

Absolutely stunning! 👌

Mark 


   
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28/01/2021 12:56 pm  

@webboy

Thank you! 

And this would be a non-recommended seller? 


   
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28/01/2021 3:02 pm  

@Steve,

You may recall that this same seller had a beautiful zitan cabinet. Also from the 18th century and highly recommended by Peter. It sold for over 100k about a year ago. 

Mark 

 


   
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28/01/2021 3:33 pm  

@steve

I would recommend to bid on an item's merits and not on a seller's reputation. There are pieces in the Newsletter that, in my humble opinion, shouldn't be there and other items on eBay that are well worth it and are not in the Newsletter. The chinese antique field is very large. Peter makes mistakes and so do I.  You need a little understanding of Chinese antiques and art in general before starting to buy on ebay or you will make costly mistakes. You shouldn't trust any recommended seller lists, newsletters or reputable seller claims on face value when buying on ebay. 

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Topic starter 28/01/2021 4:14 pm  

Mundus vult decipi. Ergo decipiatur

 


   
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29/01/2021 11:04 pm  

I really liked that deer/monkey hatstand. Thought maybe I could get it on the cheap...

$6,455 closing bid. No such luck. Is this an expected price or maybe the artist is known?  

Todd

https://www.ebay.com/itm/A-QIANJIANG-HATSTAND-EARLY-20TH-CENTURY-/274650974398?nma=true&si=j5HVVbMHTTQdVftc4jk0or9JAr4%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

take it with a grain of salt


   
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Adams Asian Art
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29/01/2021 11:37 pm  
Posted by: @imperialfinegems

Absolutely stunning! 👌

Mark 

Sold for just over 10k.

Mark 


   
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30/01/2021 12:27 am  

Hello All,

All the items listed by this seller brought very good prices but not out of line with the current market. I really liked that carving one of the best I have seen for a long time outside of the major auction houses. I also like the buttery fly bowl got left way behind in the bidding. The photo's for all the items except the carving were not the best who knows what prices may of been achieved if they had invested in major auction house quality photo's. Anyway congratulations to the seller good to see they managed to get prices in line with the market, hope they get paid. 

Michael


   
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