The Chinese and Asian Art Forum. For Fans, Collectors and Dealers.
Basic Rules For the BidAmount Asian Art Forum: Talk about whatever you want. You can even discuss and offer things that are for sale if they are authentic. Maximum image file size per post is 2 MB. Images of 700pxl x 700pxl are optimal if saved at a medium resolution. Be respectful of others and enjoy yourself. Click the YouTube link for a brief tutorial on using the forum. You can also EMBED Videos by cutting and pasting from You-Tube, Vimeo etc.
NOTE: To post an item or add a new post, click open the category title from the FORUM LIST, and CLICK the Blue ADD TOPIC button.
Hi,
Please can someone say something about this little cup? I feel it may be 19th c and I am almost certain I have seen something like it before but I simply can't remember. I am not even sure where it is from. It is quite roughly made, with an unglazed bottom. I am calling it a cup but I suppose it could be a small bowl?
Thanks for your help.
Julia
Hi Julia,
I posted these two bowls not too long ago. They are similar. The 2nd one seems older. I don’t believe I was able to figure out what they are. But maybe that is what you are remembering? Or not 😋
Similar, but they could be unrelated to your’s and to each other, not sure. The 1st thing that popped into my head was kitchen Qing or maybe Annamese?
Am curious to see what others have to say.
Todd
take it with a grain of salt
Hi Julia, your bowl is probably late 19th or early 20th kitchen Qing. See pictures from the book „Nonya ware and Kitchen Ching“.
Todd, your second bowl is similar to a late Ming Swatow bowl I own. Look at the bottom if it’s comparable.
Birgit
Thanks, Birgit, very helpful! I half thought it might be kitchen qing but the colour and base made me wonder if it wasn't from somewhere else.
Todd, thanks, that may well be what I remembered.
Brian, welcome to the site. It would seem they did. 😊 I can only say it feels like a 19th c piece, but the base makes it look older.
Julia
Hi Birgit,
You really know your stuff. The base is very similar. I am thinking that it is Swatow, like your’s. Which would make it the older piece I own 😀 . Thanks so much!
Todd
take it with a grain of salt
All,
Very nice items to my eye's at least, I have posted before how much I like Minyao items the fact they have been sufficiently loved and cared for by several generations so they can come down to us is always remarkable to me. I know they get dismissed by some as unimportant or just kitchen ware and I can understand that.
Michael
@julia IMO very nice example of a poor mans cup 18 century, the pottery seams to be not very clean therefor it has absorbed some of the color that whas painted on, the edges of the painted area are not sharp ,they are more like ink blobs on blotting paper. the blue is very intense not greyish like the newer examples posted ,the glaze is very thin i did not crakle and its very clear i would say 18 cent but prob. not jingdezhen based on the clay...
Those are valid points, thanks Martin. I saw on Gotheborg, though, very similar cups in terms of the blue colour and the rim decoration dated early to mid 19th c. The thing that throws me is that unglazed base.
There was an auction in Brussels recently with piles of what looked like Kitchen Qing only they called it kitchen Ming - is that a thing? Some did look Ming like, but some of these pieces do in a way. Anyway, I will see if the images are still available and look for unglazed bases.
@julia i am afraid calling it ming ,such a big step so many years past, how can it possebly have survived.
But it could well be judging by the superb clean white colour of the glace .
When swiftly painted , the blue they used during ming period, it looks exactly like this.
The unglaced foot is common during ming period .
Could very well be Ming period. what an exiting find.
@julia i am afraid calling it ming ,such a big step so many years past, how can it possebly have survived.
But it could well be judging by the superb clean white colour of the glace .
When swiftly painted , the blue they used during ming period, it looks exactly like this.
The unglaced foot is common during ming period .
Could very well be Ming period. what an exiting find.
Sorry, Martin, I wasn't talking about mine being Ming, just wondering why the items at the auction at Brussels were referred to as kitchen Ming. I am pretty certain mine is 19th c when all things are considered. Sorry for any confusion. I seem to be good at that recently! 😊
Hello Julia,
Don't worry no confusion you posted your cup/bowl as 19thc with a question about the base. Your thinking on the date was confirmed by @shinigami. The reference to an older item was @watership very nice item, also confirmed by Birgit. Yes there is such a thing as Kitchen Ming a google search will bring up 100's 0f examples, although if you search Minyao Ming you won't have to fight through all the take a way restaurant ad's. I saw quite a few with unglazed bases both from the Ming and Qing think it depends what market they were made for.
Michael
Thanks, Michael.
Interesting about the Kitchen Ming. I was so tempted to bid, there were piles of them, some I am pretty sure were Qing but all the same, the opening prices were 10 euros for multiple item lots. Of course, they didn't go for 10 euros but even so, the prices were good for what one was getting. Brussels was a bit far to go to collect and the delivery on many items, all needing good packaging, would have added considerably to the cost.
Latest Post: Ming Wanli dish OK? Our newest member: Pierre Jordaan Recent Posts Unread Posts
Thanks for visiting "The BidAmount Asian Art Forum | Chinese Art"
If you sell on eBay, or have a shop feel free to post images and descriptions and links.
Check back often for discussion about the latest news in the Chinese art and antique world. Also find out about the latest Asian art auctions at Sotheby's, Christie's, Bonhams and Tajans.
Auction results for: fine porcelain, ceramics, bronze, jade, textiles and scholar's objects. As well as Japanese, Thai, Vietnamese and other Asian cultures.
Thank you,
Peter Combs
Topics and categories on The BidAmount Asian Art Forum | Chinese Art
Kangxi vases, Kangxi dishes and chargers, Kangxi ritual pieces, Kangxi scholar's objects, Qianlong famille rose, Qianlong enamels, Qianlong period paintings, Qianlong Emporer's court, Fine porcelain of the Yongzheng period. Chinese imperial art, Ming porcelain including Jiajing, Wanli, Xuande, Chenghua as well as Ming jades and bronzes.
Join the BidAmount Chinese and Asian art discussion board and forum today
The BidAmount Asian Art Forum | Chinese Art
A free Asian art discussion board and Asian art message board for dealers and collectors of art and antiques from China, Japan, Korea, Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam and the rest of Asia. Linked to all of the BidAmount Asian art reference areas, with videos from plcombs Asian Art and Bidamount on YouTube. Sign up also for the weekly BidAmount newsletter and catalogs of active eBay listing of Chinese porcelain, bronze, jades, robes, and paintings.
The art of calligraphy - and for the ancient Chinese it certainly was an art - aimed to demonstrate superior control and skill using brush and ink. Calligraphy established itself as one of the major Chinese art forms during the Han dynasty (206 BCE - 220 CE), and for two millennia after, all educated men were expected to be proficient at it.
The Museum’s collections of Asian art span nearly five millennia and encompass the cultures of China, the Himalayas, India, Japan, Korea, and Southeast Asia. In 2007, the Museum launched an initiative to create dedicated galleries for the collection, beginning with a gallery for the arts of Korea ...
Chinese art is full of symbolism, in that artists typically seek to depict some aspect of a totality of which they are intuitively aware.
China Online Museum is the finest online museum of Chinese art. It features Chinese calligraphy, painting, ceramics, bronzes, carving, and other artworks.
Chinese Ceramics & Works of Art. Overview Upcoming auctions Contacts Auction results ... Christie’s sales of Chinese ceramics and works of art showcase centuries of Chinese history. Held throughout the year in London, New York, Paris and Hong Kong, they attract a wide audience of collectors and connoisseurs vying for pieces as diverse as ...
Explore Asian Art Week. Contact the Specialist Department. Chinese Paintings ... Senior Specialist, Head of Sale. [email protected]. Tel:+1 212 641 5760. Bid in-person or online for the upcoming auction:Fine Chinese Paintings on 10 September 2019 at New York. Bid in-person or online for the upcoming auction:Fine Chinese Paintings on 10 ...
Discover an abundance of must-see art from all corners of a vast continent at Christie’s NY Asian Art Week. From contemporary classical and Chinese paintings to works with exemplary provenance from the Art Institute of Chicago, our Rockefeller Paza galleries will be full of ancient treasures and contemporary masterworks in a salute to the vibrant arts of Asia.
Sold to benefit The Art Institute of Chicago’s Asian Art Acquisition Fund, the sale features 84 lots with a focus on Ming and Qing porcelains, and offers a rare insight into the taste for collecting Chinese ceramics and works of art in the Midwest from the end of the 19th century through the 1980s. Highlights include two Wanli wucai garlic-head vases, a Qianlong mark and period, blue and ...
Specialist, Chinese Paintings, Christie's London Dr Malcolm McNeill is a Specialist in Chinese Paintings at Christie’s, based in London. He previously worked as an assistant curator of the Chinese collections and the Victoria and Albert Museum in London, as a researcher at the British Museum, and as a translator and tour guide at the National Palace Museum in Taipei.
The Christie's Education 2020 Conference: The Chinese Art Market 18 Jun 2019 Christie’s Education is delighted to announce our first international academic conference in Asia which will take place in Hong Kong from 26-27 November 2020 at the Hong Kong Convention and Exhibition Centre and will run in parallel with Christie’s Hong Kong Autumn Auctions.
The summer Chinese Art sale in Hong Kong will feature works of art from several private collections, including Qing porcelains and textile from the collection of the legendary Chinese art dealer A. W. Bahr (1877–1959), fine gilt bronze Buddhist sculptures from an old Hong Kong collection, an East Asian collection of Qing dynasty wine cups and jades, and a Japanese collection of Song ceramics ...
Sotheby's Chinese Works of Art Department holds two auctions each year in London, New York, Hong Kong and Paris.
Chinese Art - View Auction details, bid, buy and collect the various artworks at Sothebys Art Auction House.
With more than 340 Chinese works of art dating from the Neolithic to the Republic periods, highlights of this sale include a selection of Qing Imperial monochromes from the collection of Arnold and Blema Steinberg, early ceramics from the Art Institute of Chicago and Chinese porcelain and works of art from the collection of Henry Arnhold.
Results: Sotheby's Asia Week achieved $52.4 million in six strong auctions, exceeding pre-sale estimates. With 76.5% of lots sold and 60.3% of lots surpassing high estimates, the Asian art sales at Sotheby's indicate continued collector interest in the finest works of art from China, India and and the Himalayas.
Today's sale of Important Chinese Art will proceed as planned with sessions at 10 AM and 2 PM EDT. Sotheby's will be monitoring the weather conditions throughout the day and will be available to coordinate alternative bidding options should conditions make it difficult for clients to attend the auction in person.
Bonhams Chinese Art department is renowned for offering the finest works of art representing the richness and breadth of China's artistic heritage, particularly Imperial porcelain, white and spinach green jades, cloisonné and Buddhist art. Specialised international auctions are held globally, including London, Hong Kong and San Francisco.
Bonhams : Chinese Works of Art We use cookies to remember choices you make on functionality and personal features to enhance your experience to our site. By continuing to use our site you consent to the use of cookies. Please refer to our privacy and cookie policies for more information.
Bonhams Fine Art Auctioneers & Valuers: auctioneers of art, pictures, collectables and motor cars. We use cookies to remember choices you make on functionality and personal features to enhance your experience to our site. By continuing to use our site you consent to the use of cookies. ... Chinese Art (US) General enquiries
Bonhams : Fine Chinese Art We use cookies to remember choices you make on functionality and personal features to enhance your experience to our site. By continuing to use our site you consent to the use of cookies. Please refer to our privacy and cookie policies for more information.
Bonhams Fine Art Auctioneers & Valuers: auctioneers of art, pictures, collectables and motor cars Bonhams : Asian Art We use cookies to remember choices you make on functionality and personal features to enhance your experience to our site.
Bonhams are international auctioneers of fine Chinese and Japanese art. We specialise in rare Imperial and Export Chinese ceramics and works of art, as well as Japanese ceramics, fine and decorative works of art from the Neolithic Period to the 20th century. View on map
Bonhams Fine Art Auctioneers & Valuers: auctioneers of art, pictures, collectables and motor cars. We use cookies to remember choices you make on functionality and personal features to enhance your experience to our site. By continuing to use our site you consent to the use of cookies. ... Asian Art Bonhams. Work. 22 Queen St.