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Last one unless someone would want another.
Google Koransha style Japanese vases and see if it looks similar to you, can't say for sure, but the form looks similar to me.
The last two pictures shows an hand made decoration.
Printed decoration in China did start at the beginning of the 20th century, but stamped marks started before, toward the end of 19th century.
Giovanni
I haven’t found a Koransha style vase yet like mine but will keep looking. Thanks for suggesting and your input. When I got this I thought it would be considered a Yuhuchunping vase. But all those have a foot rim. If the “celadon-ground Famille-Rose Pomegranate vase Qing dynasty, 19th Century” I saw on Alain Truong’s site had an extended mouth like mine, I’d say it was that form. Seems a cross between a pomegranate and yuhuchunping.:( I asked an antique dealer of 50 years what he thought and he guessed hand painted at Canton. I’m not convinced, but don’t know. Why wouldn’t there be another one out there like it?
So many kilns in both China and Japan, still has an art deco vibe to me, which would place it in about the twenties or thirties. Deco design was important, especially to Shanghai and it was also produced in Japan. It may have been a commissioned piece or a proof piece that did not get mass produced. That deer looks like it could have been for a deco design illustration and ditto for the ginko leaves. If the folk on this site have never seen anything similar, then there must not be many or any others. If it was produced outside of Asia, it borrowed from Asian design. It would also fit well with Hollywood Regency design, think Claudette Colbert or Paulette Goddard sets from the thirties.
Wow, thanks for all the thoughts, Sharon. Concerning the horns, I actually thought the artist was trying to include some sort of message like the sawtooth square type borders on many old and new Chinese vases. Sorry, I have not been able to find the name of that border design. The border is often found on Kangxi Prunus Ginger Jars.
So, is there no such thing as some “rust spots” taking centuries to come to the surface like websites such as realrareantiques, Chinese-antique-porcelain, chalre and many others, including Gotheborg in their discussion of Ming porcelain, say? I know there are impurities in porcelain, more in some dynasties than others and that oatmeal-type glaze is intentional to please the eye, but no such thing as spots moving to the surface?
Rust spots moving in time to the surface? You have read this on Gotheborg? Are you sure?
I really doubt that, sorry. It must be some misunderstanding.
Giovanni
I think you are right, Giovanni. I couldn’t find what I thought I read. I will cross rust spots of my list of things to help tell the age of Chinese porcelain. What about the one rust area on the bottom. Also, the glaze is smooth but uneven. From my 35 years of antiquing I just can’t see this being a modern Japanese reproduction. Seen too many of them.
Hello,
I am not sure to what you are referring when talking about rusted area. I only see some small rust spots, which are normal and caused by impurities.
BTW I am not expert on Japanese ware, as I suppose is your vase, being it not Chinese.
Regards
Giovanni
In the first picture I posted of the bottom, there is a rusty brownish area next to where the glaze is. It’s a couple inches long. If Japanese, maybe they faked the Ming rusty effect along the glaze edge too.
Dear CentralPApottery,
that brownish halo on the edge of the glaze is not purposely made. It can be there or not, some items have, some not, it all depends from glaze/body components.
You can be absolutely sure that the potter of your vase was not trying to fake Ming ware, that is out of discussion, because the style of painting is absolutely far from being of Chinese style. It is not the simple fact that there are deers that will point toward a Chinese origin or inspiration.
The whole composition is much far from Chinese style.
Regards,
Giovanni
Would this be a true Chinese form bronze? It’s described as Hu, yuhuchunping. This seems to be a form my vase was copying. But, I was wondering if this is an antique bronze form or modern. Mine is just a little more rounded towards the bottom, therefore almost a cross between pomegranate and yuhuchunping form.
I am curious about a piece of pottery I recently came across as well and was wondering if the rust spots indicated any kind of age. Any idea?
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