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Never a fan of thickly applied shellac especially if sprayed on, thinly applied with a rubber or a Badger brush in a patina finish as apposed to a piano finish it can be quite attractive on the right timber. A clue to age can be ascertained by measuring the width of the legs on older items there is usually a very slight difference between the width at the top and the bottom. This an optical trick that makes the legs look straight. It often gets overlooked on more recent items. Would need to see the underside to see how the apron and legs are attached to the top and how the leg stretchers are fixed to the legs to hazard a guess as to age.
Think as your table has a flat top as apposed to having slightly raised ends, it may of been intended as a painting table or for rolling out scrolls. Very nice timber that certainly has the look of Zitan and your information on odor, weight etc seem to confirm that. Expect the timber will be hungry for a nice natural oil wax finish now it has been exposed to the air and so will continue to improve as time go's by.
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Michael
Michael, that is really interesting about the legs: is the top the bigger bit?
Greeno, the table is looking wonderful! I think the fruit is the citron finger, possibly a peach, it may be pomegranate can't see the top of it, but I think the end one that looks like half an apple is actually a pomegranate cut in half.
My guesses on fruit should be way better than wood! 😊
Julia,
Depends wider at the top and narrower at the bottom not only makes the legs look straight it can make an item look taller. It is a very old architectural trick dating back to the Greeks and their columns. The difference should only be a matter of mm. I guess if you did it the other way around it might make the item look lower.
Michael
Hi Greeno -
As with others, from the images this looks to be quite a beautiful table, and a great find ...
Interesting to hear your thoughts on the relative rarity of late Qing tables made from a single wood plank ...
My Alter table, dated to 19th C, is constructed of cypress wood. The top is made of a single piece, 220 cm in length, 40cm wide and 5.7cm thick and is also 'rather heavy' ...!!
My congratulations on acquiring ...
Stuart
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@john-steward Thank you John, that was most interesting, especially the tomb excavated pieces from the Yuan dynasty. Sharon
@ming1449 Single plank tables of huanghuali and zitan are rare as resources for both species by the late 19th were near depleted. Consequently, smaller trees were felled and/or salvaged wood from damaged earlier pieces were re-used, so it is far more common to have a top composed of two or more planks.
Soft woods seem to be in greater abundance, so a single plank top of cypress or elm probably is not an indicator or age/quality. I think the color and grain of your cypress wood, and the manner of rendering, will ultimately be the best determinate for its quality.
I spent the day removing the shellac from the legs... what a mess! Comes off like caramel. So, I'm about 80% done. Wood color is coming in great overall.
Meantime, I'm going to post some labels that were on the underside...Chinese writing. If anyone could offer a translation, I'd appreciate it!
Many thanks!
Here's how it looks so far. I just applied oil, so it looks shiny. But, as Michael pointed out...the wood is hungry and sucks the oil up. Might take a week of application before the wood's luster is restored.
So, I do think the design is the three abundances, citron and peach on the front apron, and pomegranate on the side apron, but that pomegranate is rendered in a way I am not familiar.
Your table is starting to look very nice.
Looks very much like zitan species. Could be a 19th century example. Do you think it's all one species or perhaps two?
Looks forward to more pictures when it is finally finished.
Mark
@imperialfinegems 100% zitan. I thought it could be mixed wood, too, but my cleaning rags have turned red from every part of the table.
I've removed most of the shellac, but there are still spots where it has really penetrated into the wood, so the surface of these areas look light color, so you get this weird effect that looks like wood stain drip marks. Cleaning this table is a multi-day process.
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