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@imperialfinegems I think you meant to tag me Mark so I’ll say because of its imitating shape,quality and decorative style,so close datewise to the closing of the Nabeshima Kiln at the end of the Edo period,1871 and the opening of Koransha 1875.
I may be wrong,but those are my thoughts.
Vic
Sorry my mistake my friend.
It's all up to perception as to what one thinks this particular koransha plate is from.
The quality is OK. My feelings are 1930's. The design of the blue orchid fits this period. But as you already know this was also used during the late Meiji period.
But most dealers would describe it as Meiji period. One could research said design and find when it was first made etc.
It's a pity that @JRN no longer posts etc. Which for me personally is a big problem as I bought a couple of things from him earlier this year. He hasn't sent me the items. Nor is he answering any emails.
He still has items on bidamountlive. It's a mystery.
Certainly has not been my year. With massive losses all round. 😕
Mark
That doesn’t bode well Mark,open an unreceived item complaint if the time period isn’t up.
I would say definitely not 20th c for the Koransha Plate.
Vic.
That doesn’t bode well Mark,open an unreceived item complaint if the time period isn’t up.
I would say definitely not 20th c for the Koransha Plate.
Vic.
Unfortunately I purchased these itens from Jared using PayPal 'friends' app.
Something that I have used regularly with some dealers and others. I won't be using it again as there is no protection from PayPal etc.
It's actually very unusual for him. We used to talk regularly every day.
I have asked Peter if he knows what has happened to him.
With respect to the koransha plate. I respect your judgment.
Mark
@imperialfinegems And I respect your judgement also. I like Japanese pottery and porcelain because there is so much information about the various kilns,potters,working dates,etc.
You rarely have detailed information like that on Chinese pieces.
Vic
@imperialfinegems I hope he is okay and that you get your things or money back. It seems most unfortunate of a coincidence given the transaction.
So following on from my earlier post, it is ok to see a messed up base pattern on Nabeshima?
If no one knows that is fine, but until I know it is acceptable, I will regard the McPherson example and any others with less than a perfect pattern as copies.
Mark, I hope JRN is ok, all sounds very strange and quite stressful for you.
Julia,there is a decline in the quality of the comb work on some pieces but still generally outlined and filled in.
Some that you see are just runny lines.
I actually changed one of my listings after this thread to Nabeshima type just in case.
No copyright and everybody was copying each other.
Most Museums now state Hizen Ware Nabeshima type.
‘If in doubt do nowt’ as Yorkshire folk would say.
Vic
Hi Mark -
Very sorry to hear of your issues regarding pieces payed yet not received from JRN, very unfortunate to say the least ...
We also use to talk regularly, but I have heard nothing from him for quite some time ...
As with others, I sincerely hope he is OK...
Stuart
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