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Julia and Birgit already mentioned all the things, that I was thinking of. So I hope you didn't pay too much.
Here's a link for a real Kangxi Wucai (famille Verte) Gu shaped vase for comparison.
I think the so called "Song bowl" is also a modern piece. I'm not an expert on Song pieces, but I haven't seen a bowl like that before. Somehow strange.
So, just like Birgit already said, don't believe the sellers on eBay with their description. 95% (or more) of all the asian pieces on eBay are fake ! Sorry.
Chris
@chris71 Thank you!
I can only compare it to other green splashed ware, popular in the tang dynasty and early Song Dynasty. It feels very different from what I had before. The glaze feels very soft to the touch, more like not quite as sophisticated as later examples (am I making sense?). Might be later (yuan early ming).
I also cleaned it already! It has a lot of wear to it and the firing flaws are dark as seen...
with Best Regards...
Carsten
since I never pay that much... I'll probably get even, selling it on Catawiki 🤭
That seems, a bit dishonest? I'm hoping I've just misunderstood you.
@craig ...🤫...yes... shady business 😎
Just kidding... I sell there since 2018 and my experience is just, that this kind of stuff sells pretty good on Catawiki.
Don't ask me why🤷
Just recently I sold a modern copy of a Zhou Dynasty Pou Vessel for 1300€... During the auction I couldn't believe what was happening 😱
And I even less could Believe the winning bid was paid as well!
with Best Regards...
Carsten
I've been watching this thread evolve to see what feedback would be given to @detuned on his purchases, and I now think that this has reached a rather unfortunate point.
@detuned, your porcelain purchases are modern copies. I think it would be more constructive if you pay close attention to the advice given by some of the members about what they see is wrong with the pieces, rather than focusing on what you think is right with the pieces.
You should also reconsider reselling your mistakes on Catawiki, unless you make clear in your titles and descriptions that the items you are selling are modern replicas and priced accordingly.
Since nobody mentioned the table, allow me. Chinese furniture is an area that I have studied for many years - the table you bought is not a Chinese kang table. Maybe it's Thai with that leafy design. However, the lack of quality of the carving and soft appearance of the wood suggests it, too, is modern... not 19th and definitely not 18th c.
You have been a member here longer than me, so at the risk of sounding authoritative, I just want you to know that if you really see yourself as a student, then take everyone's suggestions as an opportunity to sharpen your skills as a collector and accept your mistakes...don't pass them on to an even less knowledgeable person.
I hope I'm not coming off too harsh. I wish you the best with your collecting!
I am always up for an explanation of a statement. Maybe not only me, but others, reading the thread, might want to know how you come to that definitive sounding comment.
My comment wasn't meant to sound definitive, thus me couching it in the phrase "in my humble opinion." But regarding your bowl, there are several things that strike me as much, much later than Song. The glaze, the shape, and especially the shape of the foot rim... all of these things point to a 19th century date, if not later.
That said, we're all students here and I'd be happy to be proven wrong. If you have references that support your Song dating, I would love to see them.
@greeno107 First of all... Thank you for a word about the table. 👍 very much appreciated!
then about Catawiki auctions... I always write in the description what it is and I don't try to be dishonest! I even gave a costumer his money back a year after his purchase because he got a TL test done on a piece that turned out to be modern (Vase from "Ancient" Cyprus)!
I just give my best...
I can see that the objects are modern with a little help here and a word or two for explenation from you guys and ladies. Sharpening his/her skills is a different route for everybody...
And... not to harsh... maybe a little... 🤣
no offense taken 🤗
so you can double check on me, rhe listing of the bronze vase
https://www.catawiki.com/l/41345071-archaic-pou-vessel-bronze-china-late-20th-century-modern
with Best Regards...
Carsten
I'm not a regular visitor to the Forum, so I'm not sure if anyone reads comments on three-month old threads. However, I stumbled on this discussion, and do have something to add.
The table appears to be a Korean tray table. The photos don't show it, but I would suppose that the top surface is concave (like a tray). Traditionally, such a tray table, bearing a single person's serving of rice, soup and other dishes, would be carried in from the kitchen and set in front of the diner. I find this particular example very charming, but couldn't opine on the age or type of wood. Figure 108 on page 88 of Korean Furniture, by Edward Reynolds Wright, shows a similar tray table.
Hi,
We do read them. 😊
Thanks for commenting, I didn't even know such things existed. It is always good to learn something new.
Julia
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