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Hello! Thank you to all of those who have helped me in my learning process so far. I've been watching videos, reading all the posts and really trying to refine my skills.
As a beginning collector, my collection is limited to 18th/19th century porcelain. Including Qianlong, Rose Medallion, Rose Mandarin, Fitzhugh. I thought I was pretty good at spotting the clearly 20th century copies of these pieces. Some can be moderately expensive, hundreds of dollars. I am trying to understand how widely copied these pieces are. Is anyone actually copying these pieces with the same level of detail of the 19th century? From what I've seen, copies are very crude and I can spot them right away. Do I need to actually be worried any of these are faked?
I know Peter is very weary of auction houses that aren't Sotheby's, Christies, Bonham, etc. Do I need to be worried about buying these patterns at other, regional auction houses?
Thank you for your input!
Hi Dragonfly,
Bit of an open-ended discussion. A lot of more experienced members on this site could talk for hours on this subject I imagine. Not sure if you have seen Peter’s video on identifying fakes. It is worth watching, and more than once. Best, Todd
take it with a grain of salt
In my opinion, you must be extremely careful and knowledgeable when buying material from almost all auctions other than the top three big major auction houses you mentioned;even on occasion, the top three can make a mistake. There are some good French, German, Dutch and British Auction Houses other than the big three however. About the most disheartening feeling is buying a fake and finding out years later, when you try to offer it to Bonhams or the others, it is a fake or modern reproduction; its a terrible feeling and some collectors don't recover and quite the hobby. At the beginning of my collecting, in the early 1970's, I bought some reproduction items thinking they were period Ming. Within a year or two, as I learned more and more, I realized the items were much later. I just didn't want reproductions . Later in collecting, I wanted only problem free authentic material without damage other than normal wear or with minor restoration. In my opinion, depending on your willingness to take collecting risks, you should coordinate your learning curve with your acquisition curve; put another way don't buy too far ahead of your knowledge.
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