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As the waves from another tread regarding a Jiajing piece is settling down am I now considering to splash into the ocean. ?
I am not looking to buy a whole lot, but I really liked this one in the newsletter. Nice overall impression and love the deep nuances of cobalt.
Without ever having bought something from the seller (qingperiod) have I seen and heard a lot of his objects from Mr Combs videos and therefor fully trust the seller.
My question is simply:
How can i tell that this is Jiajing and not f.ex Kangxi with Jiajing marks. I just saw a Kangxi bowl with Jiajing mark and the bottom didn't look that different to (amateur) me.
I know that there is a great chance that the seller is reading this and I have to state once again that i am just trying to learn something before (potensially) bidding and are not questioning Qingperiods great expertise. Would love and answer from the seller as well if possible.
I am also wondering what is a good deal on this one and how do you guys like it?
Best of wishes
Adrian
I know there is a great chance that he/she reads this so that
Maybe you can post a photo the base of the other (kangxi) bowl and people can see the differences, similarities. ?
I'm sure, like you, that this is a genuine item; I know very little about Ming porcelain but one thing I would look for is a pinkish hue to the unglazed porcelain footrim, and this bowl has that. Also the clear-glazed part of the base is thick and has a blue-ish tinge, and this seems consistent with other Ming examples.
The decoration on the bowl is very good , especially in the interior , in my opinion. But there are a few scratches there , which the seller does not mention (scratches are damage , right? and perhaps should be mentioned). The glaze burst on the outside does detract, but of course it's a 'natural flaw' of the making process , and shouldn't be cared about, but it's in a quite prominent position.
I think you can only bid up to what you are prepared to pay, not up to what you think , or have been told , it may be worth. If you overpay (in terms of your budget) then you may regret later. It always seems like, oh I should buy that because a similar age and quality item may never crop up in the market again, but then a few months , or years, later something equally interesting turns up.
tam
Hello,Adrian
here a Kangxi bowl from avery brungdage collection maybe it help you John
http://searchcollection.asianart.org/internal/media/dispatcher/18889/resize:format=full
I like it a lot. I am pretty hopeless with Ming but Tam's info sounds good and as you say, this seller is well-regarded. I am sure if there were to be an issue with the dating then he would probably refund you.
As has been said, if you like it, go for it but only bid what you feel comfortable with paying. Do as Peter always suggests and just leave a bid. After all, it would be a shame if you really like this and it went for something you would have been happy to pay.
Julia
Hi Adrian,
I concur with the post by Julie and Tam18.
This seller is knows his stuff and is a very popular seller. You will note that it does have a reserve.
Finally, if you have any doubts about said item, you can always email peter for a second opinion.
Pity about the graze spot!
Personally I have never dealt with him, but have left bids on some of his items in the past. He nearly always get a pretty good price for his items.
I would if I were you email qing and ask more questions about the item coming from an old estate.
As to a price or market value I will leave that for other to judge.
Mark
Thanks for answers.
Is the pinkish-hue some sort of trademark if Ming wares. I am not sure if any of my pieces have that as clearly as shown. I thought i may have been the whitebalance in the photos as it looks whiter in some other shots. The iron-oxcide on the rim may occur in later pieces of the sort right?
I think that many of the finest decorations I have see in porcelain both online and also irl is if from the Kangxi reign.
The details and the deep cobalt attracted me on this very piece, and the mark/period.
I am not anxious about never being able to come across anything like this, but it could seem like a good opportunity (depending on the reserve price)
-Adrian
About the painting style and technique you can find similarity with Xuande pieces.
The base gives us a lot of information. Very typical foot rim for late Ming period. You can see the pink tone through the greenish glaze on the base. That means the iron oxide is not only on the unglazed foot rim but also in the body. That's a good sign.
The foot rim slopes inwards. Correct for this period. Jiajing and Wanli.
Bad calligraphy style shows it's from popular kiln and someone who could not write correctly.
Very nice bowl.
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