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@lucky That is a good suggestion, but is has been my experience Chinese buyers will not buy from you if you use Ebay shipping services because most Chinese buyers want you to declare a low value to avoid paying the taxes, and Ebay will not ship an item for less than the full sales price.
I tried several years ago when I was active on Ebay (I only sell a few things now, and mostly just give items to my daughter-in-law) to declare the full value of items and insure every shipment to China.
The result was that buyers would not pay the tax and abandoned their items, and Ebay would still hold me responsible.
If you disclose that you will only declare full value in your sales listing, then you will get far fewer and lower bids, and still will encounter complaints regarding the declared value.
So, in my experience, Ebay's Global shipping service is not an option for those selling high dollar antiques in China.
I've sold several items through the global shipping program directly to China through the global shipping program, but all were under 1,000 USD. Ebay seems to have any allergy to high ticket items.
@greeno107 In regards to Chinese buyers. They pay more than anyone else in real for something. They create theirs own purchase/postage rules 🙂 and there is no any other way I am afraid - you either go with it, or you ignore a sale at all.
Best way, is to find a way and to go over the top in regards theirs expectations on what ever is there on theirs mind 😉 Let's say is there was a very good sale in terms of a sale price, you can add small inexpensive gift, which cost you peanuts - improvisation and communication with Chinese buyers is extremely important.
With no disrespect to Chinese as a nation. There is a lot of "idiots" when it comes to online sales. It is tuff to sell to Chinese anything in real...
@lucky Yes, GENERALLY Chinese buyers pay the most for Chinese antiques intended for the Chinese market - perhaps not the case with furniture or export pieces.
However, I disagree in part that the seller needs to be the one to overcome all obstacles.
Finding quality authentic Chinese antiques is hard - few sellers can do this on a regular basis, so it is reasonable to say good Chinese antiques are a rare commodity.
As the seller, if you control (own) a rare commodity, then you can set the terms of the sale.
Anyway, the issue is not solely with Chinese buyers, but rather the monopoly that Ebay holds on the market.
Regardless, I still recommend against shipping to China under the circumstances.
That is… until China’s post office works out their backlog.
I’m not sure the volume of sale others are sending to China.
My daughter-in-law, with my help, does about $8k-$10,000 in sales every month , selling items $200-1000. About half go to China, and the other half elsewhere.
This post is just a heads up notice to let other sellers who may not yet know about the slowdown in China that there is a risk of loss.
@greeno107 Minority of Chinese buyers which "they don't care", how you will post it, how much you will declare, rest of them, good luck 🙂 I do understand you completely, I did had exclude postage to China for a more then a year in a past..as I was fed up with Chinese buyers. I am sure, there is more to tell in your story (looks like in my personal opinion) - but whatever is there, you will not surprise me with any sort issue in regards to Chinese buyers. Take a break from China 😉
@lucky As a Canadian buyer - I absolutely HATE buying things from people using the global shipping program. To be honest, I'd rather occasionally have the parcel sneaking through customs without being dutied to death on SECOND HAND items than being charged crazy duty (especially on jewelry & other high valued items) and all their handling fees on top of that. Then being charged $30USD shipping on a penny sized object that normally could have been sent for half of that outside the program. It was much better before, all you had to do was attach a tracking number and send the item off and I never once had any issue with receiving the item. The tracking number is the chain of custody - why does it have to go through ebay warehouse across the country to be repacked and sent off through so many other hands? I thought companies wanted to go green, this seems like way more waste than is needed. *shrug*
They expect us to break the law when shipping almost every sale send as gift so they don’t have to pay duty. I’m trying to stay out of trouble so you send it the correct way and get a bad review. Me personally I send to China because it’s a market that I get the most benefits from and I have a shit load of write offs for the few bad deals. If you don’t send global you will give a Chinese buyer a freebie if they know it can’t be tracked your never going to see the item again and you will be giving them a refund.
Just an update.....Ebay refunded the one of the buyers...$1400. The other refunds I'm sure are soon to come.
USPS show no signs of being able to recover the item....lost in limbo in China (or delivered, but not scanned, which is also a possibility). Ebay holds steadfast to their policy on refunding if the item is 'lost', even though the item is not lost, but delayed.
I think a lot of sellers who have been regularly shipping to China are in for a real tough time these next few months.
@greeno107 I have had this same issue over a year ago. I think they have learned a loop hole and get refunds and item still gets to them unscanned free stuff because item won’t get tracked if not eBay shipping program buyers will ask for USPS priority shipping only this way it’s not scanned after China customs. You would think with this issue going on they would pause buyers in China but they don’t give a shit it’s all about the bottom line on a failing company.
I hope this gets sorted out. I like selling to China. There is interest in items that Americans dont care about as much.
I am curious if shipping FedEx would solve any of these issues? If the tracking stays solid throughout the process, will ebay still refund after a bit of time in customs? This just makes no sense to me. But then again we are talking about ebay aren't we....
It appears to be both ways as well. I bought a 90 dollar subscription to Orientation magazine that allegedly shipped months ago, but never arrived. I suspect the publisher thinks they finished the transaction.
Just an update: my magazine did finally arrive. It must have been being held.
Big news!
So, some of the cases of "lost" items sent to China are going in my favor! Why? THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT if you are selling on Ebay.
Seems Ebay will NOT refund for lost items IF the buyer requested that you modify the custom value, a violation of Ebay policy.
So, those still willing to ship to China, I suggest that you communicate via Ebay message system to the buyer prior to shipping that you are going to ship their item with the full value disclosed on the customs form.
Then, if the buyer responds that they want a reduced value, you have written documentation to protect you in the event of the buyer trying to claim the item is lost, when it is just stuck in customs.
As for me.... I 'd prefer to get less money and ship to areas that are not prone to delivery issues.
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