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Ok, this time I tried to make it harder. I asked ChatGPT (Artificial intelligence chat bot) to write a Sheaksperian sonnet for New Year's comparing art versus craft in Chinese porcelain. Like the last one, it spit this out in about 15 seconds. The robot apocalypse is upon us.
Art versus craft in Chinese porcelain
Shall I compare thee to a work of art?
Thou art more beautiful and rare than most,
With delicate brushstrokes and intricate design,
Thy beauty doth transcend all earthly cost.
But art, thou art a fleeting thing, it seems,
A fleeting moment of beauty in time,
Thy value rests upon the beholder's eye,
And fades as quickly as the fleeting rhymes.
Craft, thou art the foundation of art,
Thy skills and techniques long honed and refined,
Thou art the backbone that holds art aloft,
And ensures it shall stand the test of time.
So as the new year dawns upon us all,
Let us embrace both art and craft, the two,
For they together make our world more beautiful,
And bring us joy and wonder, anew.
Happy New Year, Kaolin
@lucky In fact I just bought a Republic piece that they had described as second half of the 20th century. It's the second time that happened to me and I don't browse on Catawiki very often. While last time no one was interested but me, this time there was another bidder who also recognized it for what it was, so it wasn't the holy grail, at least not financially. Will show it in a separate thread when it arrives.
Birgit
@shinigami Birgit, I do sell at Catawiki, when I am sure how pretty much I can expect to get for sure, as for a quick sale and quick funds...Otherwise, Catawiki is a Joke. Experts knowledge, is below average with no exceptions when it comes to experts...they are accurate, when it's obviuos what is it for sure..Nothing changed within last year. Kindergarden.
Birgit, I didn't change a word. In fact, you can run it as many times as you like and every time it comes out different.
@kaolin It's really fascinating.... thank you for sharing this
While I do not consider myself much of a poet (I dabble), it looks like the scructural format of the poem the AI spits out might resemble those of known poets, but its phrasing relies heavily on commmonly known metaphors, and mathematical formulas that determine ryhme and syllable patterns.... in other words, real poets kick AI ass when it comes to things like this.
Strangely, I think that what you've shown makes a very intersting metaphor for Chinese modern fakes that copy famous historical porcelains.
Happy New Year!
My wife and I rang in the new year in the comfort of our home - at our age, we appreciate a slow start to a new year.
Much of my day, yesterday, was spent researching the obscure history of soapstone carvers of the 17th c. (Zhou Bin, Zixiu, and Yang Yuxian). Not much is written on these artists, and only a dozen examples of work actually have shown up at auction, most by Zhou Bin, who may be the most famous of the group. So, my studies were mostly an exercise in futility, and it is at these times that I realize how much more there is to learn about Asian art.
So, I find myself reflecting on 2022, and with respect to my own limitations of knowledge, I wish to convey my sincere appreciation to everyone in our Forum group, especially those who have endured my often tough critiques. Although I have never made remarks with the intent of attacking another person's character or knowledge, I am as familiar as the next with the stinging sensation of hearing my personal beliefs on age, quality, and authenticity were in fact wrong. And truth be told, it is hard not to take it personal, at least a little bit.
As I am not much of a book reader, and so much of the indepth research into Chinese antiques is printed in obscure texts, not readily available, sharing knowledge via forum with others who have been involved with Asian art, some far longer than myself, has been an immeasurably important tool for my continued learning. So, thank you!
And for those who might still take offense to my directness, and perhaps see it as excessive nitpicking, let me acknowledge that I understand how it might rub others the wrong way. However, I do think that even if you fully disagree with a position I've taken, that contrarian discussion based on evidence and observation generally leads to a deeper understanding of truth. Respect.
So, with that, let me close with a quote about 'dating' that I just came across today from the famous collector, Robert Hatfield Ellsworth:
'Those who are optimistic in their dating, as they consider that the earlier an object is the more valuable it is, place value above knowledge and aesthetic beauty.' -- Robert Hatfield Ellsworth, Connoisseurship of Chinese Furniture in Hawaiian Collections
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Chinese Ceramics & Works of Art. Overview Upcoming auctions Contacts Auction results ... Christie’s sales of Chinese ceramics and works of art showcase centuries of Chinese history. Held throughout the year in London, New York, Paris and Hong Kong, they attract a wide audience of collectors and connoisseurs vying for pieces as diverse as ...
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Discover an abundance of must-see art from all corners of a vast continent at Christie’s NY Asian Art Week. From contemporary classical and Chinese paintings to works with exemplary provenance from the Art Institute of Chicago, our Rockefeller Paza galleries will be full of ancient treasures and contemporary masterworks in a salute to the vibrant arts of Asia.
Sold to benefit The Art Institute of Chicago’s Asian Art Acquisition Fund, the sale features 84 lots with a focus on Ming and Qing porcelains, and offers a rare insight into the taste for collecting Chinese ceramics and works of art in the Midwest from the end of the 19th century through the 1980s. Highlights include two Wanli wucai garlic-head vases, a Qianlong mark and period, blue and ...
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The Christie's Education 2020 Conference: The Chinese Art Market 18 Jun 2019 Christie’s Education is delighted to announce our first international academic conference in Asia which will take place in Hong Kong from 26-27 November 2020 at the Hong Kong Convention and Exhibition Centre and will run in parallel with Christie’s Hong Kong Autumn Auctions.
The summer Chinese Art sale in Hong Kong will feature works of art from several private collections, including Qing porcelains and textile from the collection of the legendary Chinese art dealer A. W. Bahr (1877–1959), fine gilt bronze Buddhist sculptures from an old Hong Kong collection, an East Asian collection of Qing dynasty wine cups and jades, and a Japanese collection of Song ceramics ...
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With more than 340 Chinese works of art dating from the Neolithic to the Republic periods, highlights of this sale include a selection of Qing Imperial monochromes from the collection of Arnold and Blema Steinberg, early ceramics from the Art Institute of Chicago and Chinese porcelain and works of art from the collection of Henry Arnhold.
Results: Sotheby's Asia Week achieved $52.4 million in six strong auctions, exceeding pre-sale estimates. With 76.5% of lots sold and 60.3% of lots surpassing high estimates, the Asian art sales at Sotheby's indicate continued collector interest in the finest works of art from China, India and and the Himalayas.
Today's sale of Important Chinese Art will proceed as planned with sessions at 10 AM and 2 PM EDT. Sotheby's will be monitoring the weather conditions throughout the day and will be available to coordinate alternative bidding options should conditions make it difficult for clients to attend the auction in person.
Bonhams Chinese Art department is renowned for offering the finest works of art representing the richness and breadth of China's artistic heritage, particularly Imperial porcelain, white and spinach green jades, cloisonné and Buddhist art. Specialised international auctions are held globally, including London, Hong Kong and San Francisco.
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Bonhams are international auctioneers of fine Chinese and Japanese art. We specialise in rare Imperial and Export Chinese ceramics and works of art, as well as Japanese ceramics, fine and decorative works of art from the Neolithic Period to the 20th century. View on map
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