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Topic starter 19/12/2022 5:07 pm  

As Peter mentioned about the Zacke auction in Vienna, the Chinese department is weak.

Zacke auction

I doubt that Lot 561 is Kangxi or later. Modern copy rather than the Jie Rui Tang Collection.

Jie Rui Tang 1
Jie Rui Tang 2
Jie Rui Tang

 But after I found at Alain.R.Truong records (left cup), rather a closer imitation of the Zacke cup decoration.

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Anyway, the Rider is Meng Haoran rather than Zhang Guolao.

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Otto

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20/12/2022 5:02 pm  

Be careful with Alain.R.Truong examples - all they do on that blog is collect examples from around the internet, they make no claims of authenticity. I have seen modern copies on their sites before as they simply pull auction records. A good resource and a great blog, but don't assume everything on their is authentic.


   
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21/12/2022 2:16 am  

The same goes for Zacke.  Be careful and have it authenticated before bidding. 

Birgit


   
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Topic starter 21/12/2022 1:21 pm  

Thank you for your reply.

 

I understand that the cup is among the global pages LiveAuctioneers items, so if I am wrong, then be it. But those two pictures are from Sotheby's sales. Both sold for a good amount of money, with provenance from a good collection. The Zacke provenance is with the previews' owner and has a higher estimation of under 1k.

The cup may be from a later period, but which is Jiaqing, Daoguang, or Republic? I don't think so.

2012 CKS 05305 0129 000(a famille rose snuff bottle daoguang iron red four character seal mark054930)
A FAMILLE ROSE SNUFF BOTTLE
DAOGUANG IRON-RED FOUR-CHARACTER SEAL MARK AND OF THE PERIOD (1821-1850)
The bottle is painted with a continuous scene, including a scholar riding a donkey with an attendant.
2 5/8 in. (6.7 cm.) high overall, stopper
PROVENANCE
 
With Spink & Son Ltd., London, 8 December 1960.
Property from an Important Private European Collection.

I have posted this item because I want to believe it's authentic, and I wish to own it.

Kind regards

Otto


   
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