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Hey everyone,
As a starting collector I have heard that chinese porcelain is has been fashion trends aswell. Are there more experienced people who can enlighten me on the fashion trends. What styles are in and out of fashion as of now?
Greetings,
Frank
In: Republic
Out: Kangxi blue and white export tea ware and plates with common designs
Just my impression though, I’m not a dealer.
Birgit
My vague impressions:
I am noticing bleu de hue selling well at auctions around here. Canton rose mandarin also seems to continue to do well.
Japanese prices are moving up a bit or at least interest seems to be building - I don't mean satsuma, the nice pieces are still strong I think.
18th c Chinese plates seem to have flatlined.
Dear Frank
i agree with Birgit
In general i would talk of two diffrent Groups of Chinese Porcelaine Export Porcelaine and Porcelaine made for the Chinese Market.
The Export pieces are more common and are widely offered on Ebay or Catawiki etc they clearly have the lead when it comes to masses, since they always had been mass Produced. Export Porcelaine can be catogorized in Far east export middle East export and Porcelaine made for the Western market. If you want youre collection to become to grow fast you migth consider collecting Western Export ware.
Antique Porcelaine made for the Chinese Market is banned from Exporting to other countrys , exept the normal table ware of the common man but thats most of the time badly damaged and of poor quality.
Imperial Porcelaine is out of reach these pieces cost millions.
Last but not least collecting Chinese Porcelain must be the most difficult collecting there is , bc of the Fakes .
Nicolas Chow head of Sothebys Asian arts Department estimates that over 95 Percent of items that come to the market are Forgeries .
If you study the making of porcelaine the material moulding glazing and burning process you will have the best chance to avoid fakes , and you will be able to truly admire the difficulties and mystery behind making porcelaine.
happy collecting Martin
Definitely republic period and cultural revolution pieces are sought after atm. The revolutionary pieces are very difficult to distinguish between later/newer pieces.
High quality pieces made during the 1980's. These are the ones easily identified by the almost lifelike depictions. Made in jingdezhen by masters att. Not so popular in the west atm, but very sought after in China.
Porcelain made by the straits Island is in heavy demand atm.
Mark
As a side note/observation. Any natural furniture made from either Huanghuali or Zitan wood and made during the late Guangxu through to the Republic period is very affordable atm. In my opinion a very sound investment for the next 5/10 years. But unlike porcelain requires very strong provenance. This is mainly due to the fact that a lot of the furniture on the market today has been altered/remodeled.
Republic period is red hot but not mass produced pieces. All mark and period is desirable. I think Kangxi for domestic market still does well. Silks are in. Any Qing period wares with a blue dragon you will fight with the competition to get.
Most Han ceramics don’t get much attention. Be on the lookout for older collections coming back on the market. Small dehua figures don’t get much attention. I believe one dealer site had five seals for €500. Ming fahau ware is rather out of fashion except for the most outstanding examples.
Pay particular attention to old collections being sold at auction where the collector specifically collected one type of ceramic ware. Outside of the most outstanding examples, bargains are to be had.
Buy against the current trends if you are interested in collecting nice things as opposed to being a budding dealer.
I can only add that pieces which have rock-solid provenance, ie: authentic documentation with genuine dealer labels (especially old English dealers that no longer exsits ie: Bluetts/Spinks) and/or published/exhibited examples will always fetch a premium ...
Song period Guan/Ge glazed pieces are highly desirable, as are Yuan blue/white and early Ming Imperial blue/white and monochromes ...
As mentioned by William, buying 'against the market' is a good idea and can enable one to form a good collection at reasonable expense ...
Stuart
I feel that fine meiji cloisonne is often undervalued and is destined to increase in time. Ming bronzes can sometimes be surprisingly affordable given their quality and age. Anything made of ivory, horn, bone, etc, seems to go for a fraction of what it did in years past. I also think nice wood carvings can be good bargains.
Thank you all so much 🙂
I notice late ming pieces bringing less than what they did a couple of years ago. Is this true?
Greetings
Hi Frank -
Although there are market variations, Imperial, domestic and export late Ming pieces have always fetch lower prices then there earlier late 14th/15th century equivalents ...
I would also add that damaged pieces can sometimes provide wonderful opportunities to acquire very good/high quality examples of type which would, financially, normally be well out of reach ...
I acknowledge this is a personal view point, and know some collectors who never consider damaged pieces. Proposed restoration costs also have to be factored in ...
Stuart
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