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The Kinkozan ( satsuma style) Items seem to have sellers trying to command high prices. The one I have shown above is possibly overpriced, i do not know but of all of the items seem to have quite high prices.
That said the tea pot in question is once again going for £6 but since it's not free post and in fact £5 postage, i will pass on it. I should get it, but ...that postage.
Hi Short Dong,
It would appear highly priced, but I am no expert with tea pots. If you have a chance go to invaluable/liveauctions or the majors and type in tea pot. You will be very surprised what collectors will pay for some of them. Even old chinese canton tea in sealed packed of 50-100grams/other (from memory) dating from the 1800's early 1900's command unreal prices.
Mark
Dear Short Dong,
I am just curious: an item that is on sale at 6 pounds should have the free shipping, which cost 5 pounds, in your opinion? Sorry to be frank, but it seems so absurd that I am suspecting that I have not understood you correctly. Is that what you mean? Would you sell whatever thing, regardless the value, rarity and so on, and cover yourself the shipping cost which is of the same amount?
Kind regards
Giovanni
Dear Short Dong,
I am just curious: an item that is on sale at 6 pounds should have the free shipping, which cost 5 pounds, in your opinion? Sorry to be frank, but it seems so absurd that I am suspecting that I have not understood you correctly. Is that what you mean? Would you sell whatever thing, regardless the value, rarity and so on, and cover yourself the shipping cost which is of the same amount?
Kind regards
Hi Giovanni
Good god no. I would not expect the seller to foot the cost of postage. Some poor lad from china just sold me a snuff bottle of 0.11 cents with free postage, and he posted it. I feel bad for the guy. I won another of these items a snuff bottle for 0.15 from another Chinese lad and that fella cancelled the item after i won claiming it was broken or damaged. I had no issue with that, as i understood his predicament. So what about the good china lad. He is going to suffer losses by honoring this 0.11 snuff bottle. In saying that some of those seller shill their bids and push the price above what is fair.
In the world of ebay trans atlantic sales it can be a cut throat business. You do what you have to do to survive. The loss of posting that 0.11 snuff bottle will have to be offset on another sale.
In relation to your question, I agree that £6 for a Meiji teapot is very reasonable. I do not put a price on these treasured items. I see it as a business, and postage costs are a big problem when trying to get antiques cheaply.
What I meant by my message about not buying it as it was not free postage, was because the previous teapot i got with free postage cost only £6 and my total was £6 incl postage, but if i was to buy the second tea pot i would pay almost double that price at £11 (incl postage) , this has no bearing on the value of the item or the fact it is worth many times that. It has to do with the bottom line and is no way meant to mean the seller is not offering me a good deal. Although some sellers do over charge on postage.
It has to do with the bottom line when buying items that are say damaged or in poor condition or at a bargain price...usually you may buy 10 individual items in one day at a very good price but the cost of postage adds up to make the overall cost unreasonable.
I could combine all that money and instead of buying multiple cheap items, I could buy 2 very very high quality items that are in pristine condition and only pay for postage once or twice. £5 postage is alot across multiple items, so I have to be very careful with postage costs. Ideally i try to buy from one seller during their auction, and get a total for postage. However it may surprise you that some sellers do not offer combined postage and try keep all your postage money. Yes, it has happened.
In fact, I am leaning towards stopping multiple purchases and just focusing on buying one or two high value items in pristine condition per week instead of say 25 low value items that may or may not be in good condition.
Postage is a factor and has no relationship to my respect or regard for the antique or its value or the cost to the seller. Simply it is a logistical factor I must consider.
Hi Short Dong,
It would appear highly priced, but I am no expert with tea pots. If you have a chance go to invaluable/liveauctions or the majors and type in tea pot. You will be very surprised what collectors will pay for some of them. Even old chinese canton tea in sealed packed of 50-100grams/other (from memory) dating from the 1800's early 1900's command unreal prices.
Mark
All this talk of tea has me putting the kettle on. Oh i would love to have a cup of tea from one of those packets in that old teapot : )
I would say though that the tea packets themselves would have a high value and may have a connection to the East India company as well as the tea inside. Tea having such a history and connection to America's Revolution after the Boston tea party of 1773 which in many ways was the catalyst for America revolutionary war. So i can see why they have might such a significant value as they may well have been the cargo destined for America and one could have theoretically a piece of the cargo from the infamous chest's of tea that were thrown into the Boston harbour in December 1773 from one the East India Company ships.
Dear Short Dong,
I am just curious: an item that is on sale at 6 pounds should have the free shipping, which cost 5 pounds, in your opinion? Sorry to be frank, but it seems so absurd that I am suspecting that I have not understood you correctly. Is that what you mean? Would you sell whatever thing, regardless the value, rarity and so on, and cover yourself the shipping cost which is of the same amount?
Kind regards
Giovanni
Hi Giovanni
To perhaps illustrate what i have said in my previous post above about postage.
I have here the perfect type of sale that would suit me. Multiple items, in one package with a set cost for postage. I have negotiated with Sandra on postage and got her down to £14. So anyone that wants to try do better, is free to try. Buckinghamshire _antiques feature in bidamounts trusted sellers.
This particular offer has 1 and possibly 3 plates from Yongzheng with the majority being Qianlong, and i think one or 2 from Jiaqing. Which works out about £8.80 per plate ( not incl postage).
Dear Short Dong,
I am afraid I am not with you here. You are considering the total cost of multiple postages, but that is a problem that is related only to you, not to each single seller.
The only way to overcome that is to buy less. That will also be much better for your collection. Buy less, buy better. What will you do with a snuff bottle bought for a few cents in China? Try to sell it, you will even not get what you paid. That because it is something worth nothing, and new. It has zero interest under either the artistic and antique point of view. Sorry, that is my taste, but I would include in that also the teapot that cost 6 pounds. Buy it and then try to re-sell it and you will see.
Sorry to be so straightforward but believe me it is meant to address you in the right direction.
Kind regards
Giovanni
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