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I sure wish I could afford and have room for one of those amazing Rose Mandarin punch bowls! In fact, there is a lot I would buy if I could. Peter mentioned one or two things in the sale but it's an unusual array of Rose Mandarin export items. Wow.
@jbeer2121 Yes, there is a lot of "window-licking" to do. I love the Japanese items; that flower plate with the birds... stunning!
Just took a quick look. Intersting to see so few Chinese items.... I've noticed a real shortage in the market right now of anything of domestic taste of good quality. The Japanese pieces are okay... careful bidding too strongly.
I think the zitan stands are good late 19th c. examples, but have been bid up rather high - no meat on the bone at these prices.
The Daoguang mark flambe fanghu does not appear to be period... at best, late 19th c., but perhaps even later I'm sorry to say. In their defence, they only claim it to be 19th c., but the overall crudeness of the form, bottom, and foot bring some doubts to mind.
Peter talked about that vase; I can't remember what he said about it.
The Satsuma seems B to B+ in quality, but this flower plate looks excellent to my eyes; if someone gets it for under $150 I'd say it's worth it.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/155174475316?hash=item24211e9634:g:Gg4AAOSweZVjLJBt
Back in the early 1980s I bought a similar flambé fanghu with a spurious Qianlong mark. I thought it was 18th century and when I found out later that it was late 19th century I dumped it, along other ‘mistakes’ back into the marketplace.
Woe is me!
@steve The plate is really quite nice. Personally, I find plates a bit harder to sell than vases, jars, bowls, and other vessels, so if you do decide to bid, keep that in mind. Personal taste certainly is a factor, but while the millefleu with the small section of chidori (sparrows) surrounded by the tightly geometric lobed panels is really very unique, my experience is that naturalistic scenes that balance open space with decoration has a stronger with most collectors of Japanese wares.
Just something to consider.
@greeno107 Thank you but don't worry about me! I don't collect Japanese things. And I know plates are generally not as valuable as vases.
I do have a bit of bidders' remorse thought: I bid on that (mediocre) prunus jar and the immortals plate but I'm over buget this month. Ugh! I broke my rule to never bid in the evening after a cocktail...
@william You bring up a point that is the basis of my concern. Most of the genuine 19th c. copies have no mark, a Yongzheng mark, or a Qianlong mark. This one has a Daoguang mark.... not sure I've seen that.
Here's the bottom posted on the listing...
Here's a 19th c. with Qianlong mark that sold for $1900 in 2018
Here's one reported as Xianfeng mark and period that sold in 2021 for supposedly $2,500 (doubtful it would be that cheap if genuine).
Here's a 19th c. with a Yongzheng mark that sold in 2016 for $1500
There's just a number of small details about the Chamberlin's vase that raises questions, but to each their own I suppose.
The other item that is quite striking is this 10" dragon plate. It looks to my amateur eyes to be early 19th or late 18th c.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/185591536870?hash=item2b361e1ce6:g:iB0AAOSwtgljLOWT
@steve Actually.... I would be careful on that one, too. It looks nicely rendered and shows surface wear, so it looks old. However, the correct design is a red dragon on a blue field of water, not a blue dragon on a red field of water. Pressumably, red tide was not likely an issue in the 18-19th c.
@greeno107 my doubt on the vase is that the heart appears a bit tilted, and the mark seems a bit wrong too. But I might be too picky on these details
@zhtail It is hard to tell if the reflection is tilted due to the uneven surface of the vase or just the lighting, but very good observation. I did notice the mark is not well rendered. However, the grainy texture of the underside is odd to me, and the colors are not quite right, even for late 19th c.
Sadly, the market is full of very good quality copies that any unusual feature I see in a photo makes me loose confidence.
The other item that is quite striking is this 10" dragon plate. It looks to my amateur eyes to be early 19th or late 18th c.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/185591536870?hash=item2b361e1ce6:g:iB0AAOSwtgljLOWT
Nice dragon plate. But in my opinion it's new.
I think chamberlain Antiques knows this very well by wording on the listing.
Mark
@greeno107 the foot is just plain ugly and it is hard to think a good authentic one would have such a hideous foot.
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