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Could be Longquan perhaps?
@xin_fawis thank you for the feedback, it has divided many people at the moment. Some saying that it could be some saying it's not but old some saying new. Regarding the glazing, someone from another forum said that it does not matter showing an example of a pcs in the Beijing Museum. The shape you may have a point.
@avatar thank you for your feedback... there are some that say it could be but it's all opinions
@xin_fawis these are some of the replies..they are not members of this forum and I have not told them anything about it except showing the photos and videos. Both deal with Chinese ceramic in Asia. Ofc they haven't physically held in their hand to know for sure.
as i said previously has divided people
Well, first please be ware, a lot of documentary films from China are not done by professionals, professionals I mean procelain experts. I have watched a lot of them. Many used wrong pictures or wrong pictures at the wrong moment in the film. So it's important to study using professional literature.
I know. Your cup is a hard case for a lot of people. I have seen many Yaozhou pieces. It's one of my favourite kiln. Longquan kiln too. Compare with examples I know, yours is not of this kind. Each period has its style. If you study Song ceramics, you would not find the shape your cup has. You may find this shape more on Ming, Qing or later pieces. The material or the body give us also many information. You see it on the foot rim. Yaozhou pieces have a clear flat cut, it's typical for Yaozhou.
Here are some examples:
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I don't think it's new. Could be from old Japanese kilns or Chinese Ming or later. Hard to say without handling personally.
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@xin_fawis thank you for the detailed feedback. Yes, when it comes to shape is questionable as I have been doing a little more research and found that is not the same. Although not many cups examples out there and yes you are right and sometimes they have reproductions in some museums.
Here is an illustration of your point regarding although the color of my photo is not correct due to a color temperature not being correct
some example
www.koh-antique.com/yaozhou/yaozhou.html
Is the division that has created some more confusion, I am moving to China next year and need to know if i should take it with me or leave it with family in Europe due to the rules there.
@xin_fawis thank you so much for your time, just wondering if I should take it to China or leave it here in Europe with family due to the customs rules there.
I would suggest you to contact renowned dealers in your country. They may give you some ideas. I don't think you need to take it to China to find out what it is. You would not have problems with the customers, but wrong experts or dealers.
Where are you from actually?
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@xin_fawis I am actually moving to China for 3 years in 2022 for family-related. So I am going through what I have to make sure I don't fall under custom rules when I am about to leave in 2025. I am currently in Brussels, Belgium, most auction houses are flooded with information and you never get a reply.
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