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 CARLA MALSTROM
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Topic starter 21/08/2020 8:53 pm  

 

This piece is 7cm tall (2 & 5/8”) and 6.5cm (2.5”) across the widest part of the base. It is about 3cm (1.25”) front to back at base.
I scrolled through hundreds of photos online using Bing image search but saw nothing like it. Any ideas? Thank you! (P.s. The 4th photo shows the best representation of the actual color. Not sure why other photos are not showing true color.)

 

 

 

 

 

 


   
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21/08/2020 8:59 pm  

Hi Carla,

I guess this would be referred to as a cloisonné enamel wall vase. Hopefully a more experienced member will be able to tell you more about it.

Todd

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21/08/2020 9:11 pm  

Hi Carla,

Welcome to the forum. It could be a Holy Water font or some sort of lamp. Maybe a wall flower holder. I once saw a terrible Chinese movie in which the very long finger nailed empress threw a tantrum because her flower holder inside her carriage went missing. There are lots of experts here no doubt one will reply with better information, they might even tell about the decoration and give you a date for it.

Cheers

Michael 


   
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21/08/2020 10:03 pm  

Hi Carla,

Can I ask you what are the little white stains on this object? I might be wrong but but I think it might be a modern cloisonne. 

In older pieces the colors are not so vibrant, you also tend to to see oxidation as result of the exposure to moisture. Let's see what others have to say about your object. 

 

 


   
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22/08/2020 12:03 am  

For what its worth, like Mike, my mind went to a bud vase for a car first, like the old chrystal bud vases in nineteen-twenties automobiles, but that clip on the back even made me wonder if it was clipped onto a bridal robe for cash gifts, but maybe that is not an Asian custom.  I hope someone can provide a definitive answer.  It is interesting.


   
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22/08/2020 2:19 am  

Hi Again,

Think those white spots are paint. Recently re painted the kitchen calling thought I covered every thing up but apparently not I am finding little white spots just like those on this vase on all sorts of things. The vase has me a little intrigued it looks a bit odd to my eye, if I twist my neck around and look at it with my head upside down the decoration on the lower half seems to fit the vase much better. Looking forward to some expert opinions 

Michael 


   
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22/08/2020 11:26 am  

Sorry for shortening your name Michael.  I grew up in an Irish/Polish neighborhood so invariably Mike or Mickey, but I have a son Michael and I do not shorten his name.  No offense intended.  I appreciate your insights to the forum.


   
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22/08/2020 12:37 pm  

I agree with Michael aka Brettm. It looks like paint splatter. Acetone/other should be able to remove said without damaging item.

Based on your pictures I believe your cloisonne vase is Chinese and modern. 

Mark 


   
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Topic starter 22/08/2020 4:24 pm  

@siseno, So sorry for the delay in responding.  After attempting to rub the spots off with a damp cloth with little success, I looked at the piece more closely with a magnifying glass. It appears that the spots may actually be tiny holes (pockmarks) in the surface. I think the reason they appear white is that polish was applied to the piece and is embedded in these holes. I am still trying to figure this out. 


   
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Topic starter 22/08/2020 4:32 pm  

@imperialfinegems, Thank you for your input. As I mentioned to @siseno, it appears that the spots may actually be tiny holes (pockmarks) in the surface. I think the reason they appear white is that polish was applied to the piece and is embedded in these holes.

I agree that the piece is Chinese as that is almost exclusively what my grandparents collected, from 1930's till they stopped buying sometime in the late 1980's. Many of their purchases were made when they lived in the Panama Canal Zone. Therefore, not all pieces were destined for the USA. This makes me wonder if they could be marked differently, if they were made for a Central American market, or European market. 

Can you tell me what constitutes "Modern"? From approximately what year? Thank you again.


   
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22/08/2020 4:55 pm  

Hi Carla,

Thank you for responding in regards to the stains. As I said on my previous post in older pieces the colors are not so vibrant, yours is rather bright. You also tend to to see oxidation as result of the exposure to moisture. Also the aesthetics and harmony on your piece is a bit off. In earlier examples you always see the use of light blue enamels as the base color and exposed wires. The band of Rui on your "vase" look a bit odd IMO. The shape is also new to me as I have never seen this before. All these variables direct me towards new rather than antique. I would say post 1970. 

 

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22/08/2020 4:58 pm  

The term modern is a very subjective one. Personally I consider anything made after 1949 as modern. Others may not agree with this etc and have their own descriptions etc. 

Generally speaking anything made more than 20 years ago but less than 100 years old is often described as vintage when it concerns porcelain/other. Porcelain over 100 years old is universally described as antique.

Retro ware is often linked to items that are 15 - 30 years old.

Just my thoughts. 

Mark 


   
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22/08/2020 5:33 pm  

Based on the tiny size, flat back, and clip, I think this may be a bird feeder. I’ve seen similar cloisonne items in modern bird cages.


   
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