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Hi again all.. For some reason I keep running into Japanese tea service cups and saucers. Here is a pair that I found today down the street at a little thrift store that I think are both Japanese as well?
Thanks very much! 🙂
Doug
Hi Doug,
Yes, more Japanese porcelain! ✌️
Can't read the marks. But they look very nice and from the 2nd half of the 20th century in my opinion.
You must be starting a Japanese cup and saucer collection. 🙏
Mark
@imperialfinegems Thank you Mark, lol. I am slowly learning to leave the bad stuff on the shelves. I do put some of them on my etsy site when I run out of shelf space though. 🙂 The ones with good painting are so interesting..
I really appreciate this place! You guys are great!
Thank you Mark!
Doug
They remind me of Kutani, especially the butterfly one. You could check the marks on Gotheborg or that Kutani website whose name escapes me at the moment. I would say 1940s maybe?
I was wondering if the the the one with the weird handle was Kutani, I have seen that mark on pieces I have owned before. Perhaps not worth a lot of time and energy but I do enjoy these probably more than I should.. lol
So.. 1940's Japanese .. Gosh the gold trim seems to go pretty quickly on these I am noticing..
Thanks a bunch guys! I wish I could find something more ummm "better" to look at.. 🙂
Mucho Respect!
Dougie C
1940 sounds about right. The one with the weird handle would be Kutani if not anything else. I think it reminds me of a Chocolate Tea set.
The Top first one is from mid 20th century onward and would be a tourist item
Hi again all.. For some reason I keep running into Japanese tea service cups and saucers. Here is a pair that I found today down the street at a little thrift store that I think are both Japanese as well?
Thanks very much! 🙂
Doug
Apologies I am wrong about your second teacup. Please remember, some of the time people will guess at an item 🙂 I guessed off the top of my head based on the first tea cup as there are better versions of better quality that sold in the 1940's+ as tourist items. ( nothwithstanding world war 2) As it was lesser quality than i did not mind guessing so all these factors go into a guessimate, it very likely it is a tourist item but then again that backmark may pop up somewhere. So always check the backmark database if people cannot tell exactly what something is.
As to your second Cup
It appears there is a clear copy version Gothborg
Kutani - Kaga No Kuni. Meiji (1868-1913) - Taisho (1913-1926) period
Your plate is the picture at the end and is a dead ringer for this type oif design and only being a sauce might explain why the quality is not as good the side plate.
Hard to argue with that one.. looks like it was decorated on the same day! 🙂 Wow..
So, this places the date of this one earlier than the 1940s? I really should have posted these in separate posts!
I was at least right on one thing 😉 It was from a chocolate tea set. Seems there are different backmarks such as this one. So your version might almost certainly be a later type, As the range Gothborg gives is over 65 years anbd that is for the one with that particular backmark.
@dcolosio It depends on the backmark, According to Gothborg it could be mid 19th century to early 20th century so that is good enough to say it is Meiji, it most likely could be Nippon, I am not sure if they even made these in the 1940's so forget 1940. Did they copy the design and make them again late in the 20th century, I have no idea.
I am glad you confirmed the Kutani origin of the reddish one. I still think the other could be too or by a company emulating Kutani birds.
I agree that they may be earlier than the 1940-ish date I suggested earlier, but not necessarily by much. I put the poor decoration down to possibly being influenced by economic circumstances, but there is also the angular handle which looks very art deco and that didn't really become a major style until the 1930s.
It is still possible that blanks in that style were being decorated after the period, too, if circumstances of necessity or a design vacuum caused by something like a war made that likely.
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