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@johnshoe it’s crazy. I haven’t seen that wide of a rim on this size bowl (4.3 to top of metal). Not even at the major auction houses, I don’t believe. I may not have looked hard enough though. Would love to see one.
I was idly flicking through a book today and came across this. It isn’t much info but may be interesting. Sorry, the photos aren't great.
You will have to click on the photo to read it! I hope it works.
I checked the AI response on metal rims. This is what I assumed.
Metal rims on some Chinese bowls, especially older or specialized ones (like tea bowls or those needing durability), use the principle of thermal expansion: the rim is made slightly smaller and heated so it expands to fit the ceramic, then cools to contract and create a tight, secure fit, strengthening the edge against chips, a technique similar to blacksmiths fitting iron tires on cart wheels. This process of heating, fitting, and cooling (thermal fitting) is a physical change that uses metal's property to expand when hot and shrink when cool, making the rim incredibly snug.
- Slightly Smaller: The metal rim is manufactured with an inner diameter slightly smaller than the ceramic bowl's rim.
- Heating: The metal rim is heated (often by fire or hot water) until it expands significantly, increasing its diameter.
- Fitting: The expanded rim is then quickly placed over the ceramic bowl's edge.
- Cooling & Shrinking: As the metal cools, it contracts, gripping the ceramic tightly and creating a permanent, strong bond.
@kaolin Interesting. This explains the tight fit. But the lack of a noticeable seam is still a mystery to me.
I asked AI the question and it basically sounds like they just worked it really well until the ends of the metal was well merged. Personally I'd like to see someone do it. I mean, the precision that would be necessary to pull it off with the right fit is pretty impressive. As far as I'm concerned any piece that has a metal band should have increased value. They are special.
@centralpapottery 您好，通过照片观察，您的那只碗是宋代龙泉窑米黄釉刻仰莲纹碗，采用的是正烧工艺，不是覆烧工艺，因为口沿暴釉后人采用包口工艺给予保护。说错莫怪。
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@tonysu2573 thank you for your response. Can I ask two questions? Are you saying the lines on the back are the lotus pattern? Also, yellow glazed? I’m not finding this light greenish color when I type yellow glazed with the other information.
@centralpapottery 别客气，别客气。碗外的纹饰：仰莲纹 （莲瓣纹）。釉色：米黄釉 我分享给你一些莲瓣纹的实物照片。如果有什么需要我和你一起分享的尽管说。如果你没有找到那就等有时间了慢慢找。
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@tonysu2573 thank you again! Yes, I see what you mean on yours. Mine are simply lines from the foot to the rim.
@centralpapottery 不用客气，我不会英文，我用翻译软件帮我翻译了下面的我说的中文，希望这个软件翻译的你能看的明白并且对你有一点点用处。
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Quote-ready version (professional English):
In the term mihuang glaze (米黄釉) or mihuang (米黄色), the element mi (米) should not be understood as a specific reference to millet (小米). Rather, it operates as a conventional colour analogy, corresponding to the modern Chinese colour category of mise/mihuang—a pale, creamy off-white tone with a subtle warm yellow cast, broadly comparable to beige or ivory-beige. Standard dictionary definitions of mise/mihuang likewise describe it essentially as a whitish colour tinged with light yellow.
Within the Longquan ware context (and, more broadly, in discussions of celadon systems such as Southern Song guan ware and Ge ware), mihuang glaze typically denotes a celadon glaze variant that reads warmer and more yellow-leaning, often with a relatively milky or opalescent quality—rather than a bright, lemon yellow. The term is therefore descriptive in nature, and may reflect factors such as firing atmosphere, temperature, and the body–glaze formulation.
Some writings explain the name by likening it to the colour of millet; however, this is best treated as a later metaphorical interpretation rather than a strict etymological conclusion (especially since mi in Chinese can also function as a generic term for “grain/rice”). A more robust reading is to treat mihuang as a fixed colour designation—namely, a beige-toned glaze with a slight yellow cast—without forcing an exclusive choice between “rice” and “millet.”
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I once read a book many years ago that focused on mihuang (straw-coloured) glazed wares. Unfortunately, I can no longer locate the book. However, I can share an image of its cover with you; if you are able to identify or find the publication, I believe it may be of some help in further understanding the bowl in your possession.
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The image shows a promotional page for the exhibition “Yiding Liufang: A Special Exhibition of Song and Yuan Mihuang (Straw-Coloured) Glazed Ceramics”. Relevant information is as follows:
Exhibition Information
- Title: Yiding Liufang: A Special Exhibition of Song and Yuan Mihuang (Straw-Coloured) Glazed Ceramics
(English: Song and Yuan Wares with Straw Color) - Organisers: Jingdezhen Municipal Bureau of Culture, Radio, Television, Press and Publication, and Tourism; Huzhou Municipal Bureau of Culture, Radio, Television, and Tourism
- Hosts: Jingdezhen China Ceramics Museum; Huzhou Municipal Institute for Cultural Relics Protection and Management; Jingdezhen Ceramic Culture and Tourism Group; Jingdezhen Tang Ying Society
- Academic Support: Zhejiang Provincial Institute of Cultural Relics and Archaeology; Jiangxi Provincial Institute of Cultural Relics and Archaeology; Jiangxi Provincial Museum; Jingdezhen Ceramic Archaeological Research Institute
- Co-organisers: Yichun Museum (Jiangxi); Qingbai Porcelain Specialised Committee of the Jingdezhen Oriental Ancient Ceramics Research Association; Ancient Ceramics Specimen Museum of Jingdezhen University
Theme and Significance
This special exhibition centres on mihuang-glazed ceramics of the Song and Yuan periods. Characterised by a soft, warm straw-toned glaze, such wares are regarded as one representative branch within the Song dynasty qingbai tradition (also known as yingqing). Combining both utilitarian and aesthetic qualities, the exhibition aims to present—systematically—the techniques, forms, decorative programmes, and cultural context of Song–Yuan mihuang-glazed ceramics, thereby promoting the preservation, interpretation, and wider exchange of ceramic culture.
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@tonysu2573 thank you, again, so much. Wow! What an extensive explanation. When you said “mihuang glaze typically denotes a celadon glaze variant that reads warmer,” that sounds like an explanation for mine.
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