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springmeier
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16/02/2020 1:58 pm  

@shine

Do you have them on fixed price or auction?

To be successful on ebay it is all about visibility, and fixed price listings do not attract a lot of viewers. You could have a fixed price listing online for a month and after,  list the same item but this time as an auction with no reserve and you might be surprised to see the auction price going higher than the fixed price listing.

 


   
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16/02/2020 2:29 pm  

Below are a couple of photographs of my Jun bowl. It is definitely not in the same league as the examples that Stuart has posted and even though I am in no way artistic, the red flash seems to me like it has movement and reminds me of a comet speeding through space.

I hope that you enjoy looking at it.

Kind regards,

Jeremy

 


   
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Shine
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16/02/2020 2:54 pm  

@springmeier

Mostly fixed price.

Most auctions that I’ve had have had very few bids. 99p snipe on a 19th c Canton miniature Vase and £12:50 for a pair of Japanese Ginbari & Cloisonné Vases.

Fixed price is the only way for me.

 

Vic

 


   
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16/02/2020 5:02 pm  
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@springmeier

Mostly fixed price.

Most auctions that I’ve had have had very few bids. 99p snipe on a 19th c Canton miniature Vase and £12:50 for a pair of Japanese Ginbari & Cloisonné Vases.

Fixed price is the only way for me.

 

Vic

 

Hi Vic,

Would you be so kind and send over the link to your ebay, please? I am sure you were posting some items of yours in 'On the market' section but I can't recall your nick.

May I ask, are you based in UK, am I right? If so, how about doing some fairs with your stock and try selling there?

Regards,
Adrian

Feel free to browse the store:
www.malkaart.com
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16/02/2020 11:16 pm  

And this one?

take it with a grain of salt


   
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17/02/2020 2:02 am  

@watership

I know nothing about that kind of ware but would never buy anything that looks so artificially dirtied. 

 

Birgit


   
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17/02/2020 3:43 am  

Birgit,

You must be right. It sold for just $65 on ebay. Not worth even that much I assume.

Todd

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17/02/2020 3:45 am  

Dear Jeremy,

if you would like to have an opinion on your bowl, good pictures of the base are mandatory. From the top and from the side.

Dear Watership, Julia is right, your bowl is a clear copy, sorry.

Dear Adrian, the main reason that reveal the nature of your bowl is just in the foot/base.

Dear Stuart, which exhibition is that of the Jun bowls? Who has been the curator? There are some not correct assumptions there, I think that the opinions were not updated. Studies about Jun ware have progressed in the recent years.

Regards,

Giovanni

 

 


   
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17/02/2020 4:22 am  

Hi Giovanni,

Don’t be sorry, I didn’t buy it 😋 

Todd

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17/02/2020 4:28 am  

@watership

That's good😊

 

Dear Birgit, sorry in my previous post I said "Julia is right". I did a mistake, I was meaning "Birgit is right". I am getting old😊

 

Regards,

 

Giovanni

 

 

 

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17/02/2020 4:43 am  

Hello Giovanni

I posted the photographs of my bowl just to show an example of the interior decoration and was not asking for an opinion of it's age in this case.

Kind regards,

Jeremy


   
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17/02/2020 1:08 pm  

Dear Giovanni, all - 

The two Jun pieces posted, No’s 72/73, were included in the Oriental Ceramic Societies ‘China without Dragons’ exhibition, held during Asian Art in London in 2016 ... 

The curator was Regina Krahl, the lady who wrote the three Voll Topkapi Saray catalogues, a world renowned independent scholar/academic and OCS President during the planning, object selection and institutional of the exhibition. She wrote most of the catalogue, including entries for the 211 objects.
She is also Sotheby’s Asian Art Academic Specialist ... 

Stuart 


   
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clayandbrush
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17/02/2020 2:59 pm  

@ming1449

Thank you dear Stuart.

The Author is a real authority in the Chinese ceramic field, as everybody knows. I see that she has signed the description of the first bowl that you have shown.

I was referring to the description of the second bowl, which now I see that it is signed NW, which should correspond to Nigel Wood.

Unless NW is another person, that is strange because the said description says that “The milky white thus formed is rendered blue by dissolved iron oxide.”

That is not correct and Nigel Wood knows it perfectly, since in his “Chinese glazes”, at page 120, he clearly states that the blue is only due to the Rayleigh effect, the same optical effect for which the sky is blue. He clearly says that Jun glaze is the only Chinese glaze which color is not due to pigments.

Then, may be that the contradiction must be due to some misunderstanding in that description.

BTW, I have already said here in some discussion that I am one of the authors of a CD book dedicated to the Jun ware, which is based essentially on 45 shards that are in the Chinese Museum of Parma.

In that CD, the scholar Sabrina Rastelli has drafted the today’s more updated and comprehensive text on Jun ware. There, in some pictures I clearly show that the color is exclusively due to an optical effect.

To whom is interested in buying that CD, it is described here:

https://museocineseparma.org/en/pubblicazioni/books/178-jun-ware?layout=post

For ordering, if still available, the request should be sent either to one of the following addresses:

https://museocineseparma.org/en/contatti/3-3-chiara-allegri

[email protected]

To be clear: no commercial reason for suggesting the purchase of the book. The small gain goes entirely to the support of the Museum, which is the reason of the birth of the job. Nothing goes to the Authors.

A few hundred copies have been made, and it will not be reissued again.

Regards,

Giovanni

 


   
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17/02/2020 4:36 pm  

Dear Giovanni, 

You are quite correct, NW does indeed correspond to Nigel Wood ...

Although Regina Krahl wrote the majority of the object entries, other well know academics/scholars also contributed - attached image of these ... 

I can only assume, as you, that there must have been some misunderstanding in the glaze effect description in the entry for this piece which, as you quite rightly point out, contradicts that in his seminal ‘Chinese glazes’ publication ... 

As before, I happily defer to you knowledge on these Jun wares!!😉🙂... 

Best regards, 

Stuart 

 

 


   
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Watership
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20/02/2020 11:32 am  

 

Found this in the bargain bin today. The shape is wrong of course, a Japanese version I presume? Still, its not so bad, I like the coloring. 

Todd

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