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Thank you very much for your help. We will try to contact you. We are currently thinking about the best way to proceed...
@cherdak Feel free to email me if you'd like I'm happy to help if I can: [email protected]. Cheers, John
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Does anyone know a specific contact for someone from Sotheby's or Christie's? We just started looking and studying these auction houses, and there are a lot of experts there.... but we don’t know who exactly to turn to...
The email indicated above by Ben Farina does not work(
In general, Christie's auction cannot help in terms of attribution and in general they do not treat ordinary people very well. We have to try to find out more about the seal ourselves...
Regarding the two hieroglyphs on the side of the seal that speak about the master... everyone translates the first hieroglyph differently. They say that the first hieroglyph can be read in different ways... they do not know which hieroglyph the master had in mind when he carved it.
Regarding the stone and its black cracks, about which we were told at the mineralogical museum that such cracks cannot be on pyrophyllite (agalmatolite). They said that the stone probably survived a fire. Now we believe that this is not so! And the black cracks are precisely the natural pattern of the stone! In fact, this is rare. I searched for information about seals on the Internet for a long time. And I came across an article on the website of the "seal carving society". It said that once a stone was brought to the master so that he could make a seal out of it. The stone was from China. And when he tried to carve the seal, he discovered that the darker material was much, much harder than the softer stone that surrounded it. So hard, in fact, that it could not be cut with his seal carving knife.
And this stone is the same as the stone in our seal!
I have attached a photo of the stone.
Question to respected forum participants.
The other day, someone we showed a seal to said that the age of a seal can be determined by the way the hieroglyphs are carved on the side of the seal. But he himself does not understand this.
Is this really true? By the method of carving hieroglyphs, is it possible to determine the approximate period of creation of the seal?
Or is this impossible?
@cherdak All aspects can be faked, so you have to assess the totality of the piece not just one aspect. So no, you can't draw a thorough conclusion based only on the carved characters. By the way, did you reach out to Ben at Freemans after I corrected the email for you that I had initially misspelled?
Hello everyone. And again I have news. We consulted a lot and came to the conclusion that the seal belonged 100% to a woman, Chen Yuanfang, and 100% to the master carver Shao Zong.
But no one knows them.
However, we ourselves have been trying to find at least something for a long time. And I found information about the Shao family of stone carvers (they were carvers for a very long time) at the end of the Tang Dynasty, and one of the brothers and children was the carver Shao Zong, he carved different stones and carved tombstones for the princesses of Lanning and the wife of Disiun...
But this is very unrealistic to be true for our stone (but we will continue to search and find out more)
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