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Hi folks,
In the summer of 2017 I found this beautiful triple gourd sprinkler in sacrificial blue with remnants of gilting, still visible in the photos.
I have found a few other examples of this shape online, but none in the monochrome dark blue color. The other examples with this kind of foot have mainly been dated to be kangxi.
What do you think?
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I wonder if this could be Japanese ? the white porcelain on the base does not look typical for kangxi or Chinese C18th vases, and the foot looks more C19th than any older, but I don't know . The mouth is also unusual - I don't think it's been cut down , but the the way it's squared off again is not typical for chinese porcelain, unless there used to be some kind of stopper or pouring attachment (?) .
Also the shape and tone of blue makes me think Japanese. .. but not with any real confidence. How tall is it?
tam
Hi Tam, I am fairly confident that it is Chinese (but I guess anythings possible). The shape has its origin in the middle east, and it was likely mounted with some form of silver on top.
It is 21cm tall.
http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2015/important-chinese-art-hk0591/lot.3684.html
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Here is a recently sold one where you can see the foot.
https://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/kinesisk-vase-af-porcelaen-1700-tallet/i5172897/
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And these two.
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Hi,
What is the cracked ice/hawthorn/prunus-type pattern reflecting from, or is that on this vase?
Julia
Hi,
What is the cracked ice/hawthorn/prunus-type pattern reflecting from, or is that on this vase?
Julia
As mentioned, it must have been gilted at some point, and the pattern you see on the pictures is what is visibly left of the pattern (it is actually more visible in the artificial light I took these pictures in, than in daylight).
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Yep Julia. Good question. Best wishes all
I don't know , it looks a bit like the catawiki ones but the way it's photographed indoors and the reflections makes the shape look facetted , rather than circular , so that is confusing,
the traces of prunus etc don't look very kangxi like to me. Also the shape of the foot on the outside , rising to the first gourd, seems a bit awkward. Maybe it's a later 'kangxi revival' piece from the C19th, when they produced things in a wider range of blues?
tam
I don't know , it looks a bit like the catawiki ones but the way it's photographed indoors and the reflections makes the shape look facetted , rather than circular , so that is confusing,
The shape IS facetted (15 or 16 facets, if I remember correctly), it gives the effect of lighter and darker blue vertical lines on the main body.
There is nothing wrong with the blue color, there is a write up on gotheborg concerning "sacrificial blue", which is a very dark blue (as on this sprinkler), that was often gilted. It is also known as 'ji lan'.
http://www.gotheborg.com/glossary/sacrificialblue.shtml
IF it is kangxi or not, is the question. The flowers certainly look like prunus flowers, but I don't think the background pattern is cracked ice, it doesn't look like cracked ice to me, but I'm not claiming to know all variations of cracked ice.
I have to add that the facetted shape to me seems too elaborate for a revival piece and the worn away gilt at least points towards some age, although this was an item that was probably used and held extensively, it is no surprise that the gilt is gone.
I've included a picture in which I've tried to enhance the facets and the color difference between them, to make clear what I mean. The blues in the picture are nowhere near what the blue looks like in real life.
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And I just noticed that one of the links I posted was incomplete... here is it again
https://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/kinesisk-vase-af-porcelaen-1700-tallet/i5172897/
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I've tried to enhance the flowers and pattern as much as possible in Photoshop.
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well , I can't and shouldn't judge the colour from the photos but to me it looks different from the bright blue you reference on Goteborg. Interesting to see the facets and the prunus design ., thx.
Again seeing the highly geometric pattern of flowers and squares makes me think Japanese rather than Chinese , and I guess the pattern is a stylised version of the prunus and cracked ice pattern .... look forward to other opinions
tam
Ah, I see, I thought when you said traces of gilt that it was just the rim whereas all the flowers etc were gilt, thanks for trying to show it more clearly.
It does look odd, it is quite a stiff pattern and the upper flowers look like daisies, too. I had a blue and gilt bowl which had suffered a lot of loss to the gilding, but this is almost total. What is strange though, is that the pattern is so complex, I can't begin to imagine how it looked. Either the light or dark bits have to be gold but either way it means that so much has been lost, more than I would anticipate and far too evenly. You expect wear in places that have been handled, but this looks almost completely gone. Maybe it was badly cleaned?
Could it be an underglaze pattern - somehow? Or is there clear evidence of over-glaze gilding?
I find the facetting unusual and I am not convinced the foot fits with the examples you have shown. Maybe it is Japanese as Tam suggests or I am even wondering if it could be a late 19th c European item.
Basically, I don't know! ?
Hello All,
Been following this thread with interest can't help with age or origin but it looks like to me this vase spent to long in the kiln for the secondary firing to set the decoration or perhaps it was in a kiln hot spot.
Just a thought
Regards
Michael.
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