The Chinese and Asian Art Forum. For Fans, Collectors and Dealers.
Basic Rules For the BidAmount Asian Art Forum: Talk about whatever you want. You can even discuss and offer things that are for sale if they are authentic. Maximum image file size per post is 2 MB. Images of 700pxl x 700pxl are optimal if saved at a medium resolution. Be respectful of others and enjoy yourself. Click the YouTube link for a brief tutorial on using the forum. You can also EMBED Videos by cutting and pasting from You-Tube, Vimeo etc.
NOTE: To post an item or add a new post, click open the category title from the FORUM LIST, and CLICK the Blue ADD TOPIC button.
Plucked these guys yesterday. They were filthy, filthy, filthy! I think I finally got to the wood after cleaning for over an hour. Turned out pretty good. I think the two tier table is circa 1880-1900 and the nesting tables probably 1920ish, but I'm not 100%. I only pictured the smallest nesting table in the set of 4. Does anyone recognize the wood grain? Also, I have noticed a spike in Chinese furniture prices over the past couple years. Does late Qing early Republic pieces command attention? And does anyone have a good idea of current market value. JT
Hi Jamie,
The two tiered stand is a very nice example. Could be in my opinion circa 1850.
I have had a good look at your pictures. I am having trouble with them as I am using a mobile phone. The wood I think is two types here. I don't want to speculate at the moment as to what it is. I would however appreciate it if both @Greeno107 and @Brettm could possibly give their opinion. I think it is a fantastic find from the attic. It also appears to be signed.
The other one is I believe probably from the Republic period.
Your absolutely correct. Chinese furniture for the most part has increased dramatically in the past few years. But not all. Woods such as Zitan, Huanghuali and Hongmu just to mention a few have really excelled. Especially if they are from the Ming to early Qing period.
Whilst guangxu/republican period furniture is not as expensive as its counterparts from the Ming period it is in my opinion well worth buying but only if it's in the top collectable woods such as Huanghuali. These will increase in the future as the market for the earlier Examples get priced out of the market.
Mark
The wood panel under the stone top inset suggests this is a modern copy.
Unfortunately, in recent years there are finely made copies of 19th c. classical furniture being made that in almost all regards looks like the genuine article, but they lack any sign of use or wear, so that helps to spot the copies.
It’s not cheap, so it has value, but not as an antique.
One thing is for sure, the dirt on this thing (whenever it was made) was not modern. I swear you could not even tell it was a marble top table and really could not even see the carvings. It was in the third floor attic of an old building for quite some time before I grabbed it. At any rate, I need to find out what it is for certain. Sincerely, JT
Hi @greeno107,
The stone set one does not have a wood panel (image 25) from what I can see. Perhaps it's a different image from one of the other ones that your looking at.
I thought and still think it has good age and probably elm wood. Or am I missing something here. It's 4.27am. I first looked at it a few hours ago.
The other one looks more recent than republican. Now that I have had another look.
It's confusing.
Mark
Sorry Guys, I will keep items to one at a time to avoid confusion. I just pick them both from the same place. The nesting tables were not near as dirty. I Don't think they are repros just early to mid. 20th C. The Chinese business that was in the buildging closed in 1987. Another business moved in and remained untill last year. When me and the owner of the buildging went in on the 3rd floor, it didn't look like anybody had been in there at all in over 15 or 20 years. An unintentional time vault. I am extremely happy to find and salvage them. JT
@imperialfinegems This is the photo I was referring to...
Is that not the tiered stand? Maybe I’m confused.
Those stands when if the period are 99% hongmu, rather than rosewood like this one.
OH! I see! That’s the second shelf.
🤣
Now that I’ve figured out what I’m looking at, and yes I see the stone underside of the top, I think late 19th c. to early 20th c. is reasonable, and I apologize for my early assessment based on my misunderstanding of the photos.
Further more, the wood may be hongmu, which varies in color and can look more red like rosewood when photographed in bright sunlight.
My lesson learned today - don’t respond to the Forum while stopping and going in between red lights and driving!
No worries my brothers. I'm just trying to figure out exactly what I have. Tables, as the late Qing period piece pictured, come in a variety of hardwoods and a combination thereof. Before I place on the market, I want to be accurate as to what I'm selling. I have no knowlege or expertise in Chinese/ Asian hardwoods and depend on generous individuals such as you guys to teach me what I don't know. Every comment is appreciated. Even if it is submitted on the fly 😎 Sincerely, JT.
There was a hardwood snuff bottle display stand out of the same building. I will submit photos tomorrow after I clean it. From what I can tell, it is well constructed, but not too old. Maybe early to mid 20th C., but I'm not sure and always want to be as sure as possible in dealings. I have no idea of the wood type used in construction. It can't even be seen through the current grim. Whatever it is, it has been sitting in the same spot for quite a long time. My guess is it was placed there sometime in the 1980s, and has not been touched since. I also found two small ancestor portraits. They look like they were framed in the 1920s. They are filthy and need a good cleaning as well. I will submit for comments when ready. Sincerely, JT
Hi Jamie and Greeno107,
I agree with you on the possibility of the wood being hongmu. But the top looks very much like elm. It wasn't uncommon for makers to combine woods for special effects.
The grain on the top is distinctly different from the rest. This particular elm is very sought after. It is often confused with Huanghuali. There is elm and then there is elm.
Dating these can and is very difficult using pictures. Same applies to species of woods. Most auction houses like sotheby's etc insist on viewing before committing to a appraisel. So they would often date these as either 19th century or 19th/20th century. I think 19th century is appropriate.
Jamie it's a beautiful example and if you decide to sell it it would be chased by collectors. It would look spectacular with a large porcelain vase, bronze or even a jadeite statue.
The other one is not so special in my opinion. But that being stated it still has a market place a a group.
Congratulations.
Mark
PS: perhaps Jamie you could resubmit your pictures with more details of the stone inserted one rather than combining the two.
Hello Jamie,
Agree with Marks last comment. Your photo's are clear and well exposed however I can't work out what I am looking at. Can you please submit photo's of the two items separately. I will refrain from commenting on the timber at this stage. What I can tell you that the exposed joints I can see are of very good quality, they have been made to allow expansion and contraction in different weather conditions. What i cant work out is what joint belongs to what item. It would also be useful to see the whole nest of tables to see the proportions properly. Greeno's point about lack of wear and use maybe valid. Layers of dirt, dust and grime can build up very quickly and if in a slightly damp place turn to mud that can be hard to remove. It may be they were totally restored and had any age marks removed prior to being placed in storage and just acquired a crust during such storage. Hope you can load the photo's separately as the quality of the timber and the construction makes me think you may have a bargain purchase. The dimensions would be useful.
Cheers
Michael
Latest Post: Picking this up tomorrow Our newest member: mbokstrust mbokstrust Recent Posts Unread Posts
Thanks for visiting "The BidAmount Asian Art Forum | Chinese Art"
If you sell on eBay, or have a shop feel free to post images and descriptions and links.
Check back often for discussion about the latest news in the Chinese art and antique world. Also find out about the latest Asian art auctions at Sotheby's, Christie's, Bonhams and Tajans.
Auction results for: fine porcelain, ceramics, bronze, jade, textiles and scholar's objects. As well as Japanese, Thai, Vietnamese and other Asian cultures.
Thank you,
Peter Combs
Topics and categories on The BidAmount Asian Art Forum | Chinese Art
Kangxi vases, Kangxi dishes and chargers, Kangxi ritual pieces, Kangxi scholar's objects, Qianlong famille rose, Qianlong enamels, Qianlong period paintings, Qianlong Emporer's court, Fine porcelain of the Yongzheng period. Chinese imperial art, Ming porcelain including Jiajing, Wanli, Xuande, Chenghua as well as Ming jades and bronzes.
Join the BidAmount Chinese and Asian art discussion board and forum today
The BidAmount Asian Art Forum | Chinese Art
A free Asian art discussion board and Asian art message board for dealers and collectors of art and antiques from China, Japan, Korea, Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam and the rest of Asia. Linked to all of the BidAmount Asian art reference areas, with videos from plcombs Asian Art and Bidamount on YouTube. Sign up also for the weekly BidAmount newsletter and catalogs of active eBay listing of Chinese porcelain, bronze, jades, robes, and paintings.
The art of calligraphy - and for the ancient Chinese it certainly was an art - aimed to demonstrate superior control and skill using brush and ink. Calligraphy established itself as one of the major Chinese art forms during the Han dynasty (206 BCE - 220 CE), and for two millennia after, all educated men were expected to be proficient at it.
The Museum’s collections of Asian art span nearly five millennia and encompass the cultures of China, the Himalayas, India, Japan, Korea, and Southeast Asia. In 2007, the Museum launched an initiative to create dedicated galleries for the collection, beginning with a gallery for the arts of Korea ...
Chinese art is full of symbolism, in that artists typically seek to depict some aspect of a totality of which they are intuitively aware.
China Online Museum is the finest online museum of Chinese art. It features Chinese calligraphy, painting, ceramics, bronzes, carving, and other artworks.
Chinese Ceramics & Works of Art. Overview Upcoming auctions Contacts Auction results ... Christie’s sales of Chinese ceramics and works of art showcase centuries of Chinese history. Held throughout the year in London, New York, Paris and Hong Kong, they attract a wide audience of collectors and connoisseurs vying for pieces as diverse as ...
Explore Asian Art Week. Contact the Specialist Department. Chinese Paintings ... Senior Specialist, Head of Sale. [email protected]. Tel:+1 212 641 5760. Bid in-person or online for the upcoming auction:Fine Chinese Paintings on 10 September 2019 at New York. Bid in-person or online for the upcoming auction:Fine Chinese Paintings on 10 ...
Discover an abundance of must-see art from all corners of a vast continent at Christie’s NY Asian Art Week. From contemporary classical and Chinese paintings to works with exemplary provenance from the Art Institute of Chicago, our Rockefeller Paza galleries will be full of ancient treasures and contemporary masterworks in a salute to the vibrant arts of Asia.
Sold to benefit The Art Institute of Chicago’s Asian Art Acquisition Fund, the sale features 84 lots with a focus on Ming and Qing porcelains, and offers a rare insight into the taste for collecting Chinese ceramics and works of art in the Midwest from the end of the 19th century through the 1980s. Highlights include two Wanli wucai garlic-head vases, a Qianlong mark and period, blue and ...
Specialist, Chinese Paintings, Christie's London Dr Malcolm McNeill is a Specialist in Chinese Paintings at Christie’s, based in London. He previously worked as an assistant curator of the Chinese collections and the Victoria and Albert Museum in London, as a researcher at the British Museum, and as a translator and tour guide at the National Palace Museum in Taipei.
The Christie's Education 2020 Conference: The Chinese Art Market 18 Jun 2019 Christie’s Education is delighted to announce our first international academic conference in Asia which will take place in Hong Kong from 26-27 November 2020 at the Hong Kong Convention and Exhibition Centre and will run in parallel with Christie’s Hong Kong Autumn Auctions.
The summer Chinese Art sale in Hong Kong will feature works of art from several private collections, including Qing porcelains and textile from the collection of the legendary Chinese art dealer A. W. Bahr (1877–1959), fine gilt bronze Buddhist sculptures from an old Hong Kong collection, an East Asian collection of Qing dynasty wine cups and jades, and a Japanese collection of Song ceramics ...
Sotheby's Chinese Works of Art Department holds two auctions each year in London, New York, Hong Kong and Paris.
Chinese Art - View Auction details, bid, buy and collect the various artworks at Sothebys Art Auction House.
With more than 340 Chinese works of art dating from the Neolithic to the Republic periods, highlights of this sale include a selection of Qing Imperial monochromes from the collection of Arnold and Blema Steinberg, early ceramics from the Art Institute of Chicago and Chinese porcelain and works of art from the collection of Henry Arnhold.
Results: Sotheby's Asia Week achieved $52.4 million in six strong auctions, exceeding pre-sale estimates. With 76.5% of lots sold and 60.3% of lots surpassing high estimates, the Asian art sales at Sotheby's indicate continued collector interest in the finest works of art from China, India and and the Himalayas.
Today's sale of Important Chinese Art will proceed as planned with sessions at 10 AM and 2 PM EDT. Sotheby's will be monitoring the weather conditions throughout the day and will be available to coordinate alternative bidding options should conditions make it difficult for clients to attend the auction in person.
Bonhams Chinese Art department is renowned for offering the finest works of art representing the richness and breadth of China's artistic heritage, particularly Imperial porcelain, white and spinach green jades, cloisonné and Buddhist art. Specialised international auctions are held globally, including London, Hong Kong and San Francisco.
Bonhams : Chinese Works of Art We use cookies to remember choices you make on functionality and personal features to enhance your experience to our site. By continuing to use our site you consent to the use of cookies. Please refer to our privacy and cookie policies for more information.
Bonhams Fine Art Auctioneers & Valuers: auctioneers of art, pictures, collectables and motor cars. We use cookies to remember choices you make on functionality and personal features to enhance your experience to our site. By continuing to use our site you consent to the use of cookies. ... Chinese Art (US) General enquiries
Bonhams : Fine Chinese Art We use cookies to remember choices you make on functionality and personal features to enhance your experience to our site. By continuing to use our site you consent to the use of cookies. Please refer to our privacy and cookie policies for more information.
Bonhams Fine Art Auctioneers & Valuers: auctioneers of art, pictures, collectables and motor cars Bonhams : Asian Art We use cookies to remember choices you make on functionality and personal features to enhance your experience to our site.
Bonhams are international auctioneers of fine Chinese and Japanese art. We specialise in rare Imperial and Export Chinese ceramics and works of art, as well as Japanese ceramics, fine and decorative works of art from the Neolithic Period to the 20th century. View on map
Bonhams Fine Art Auctioneers & Valuers: auctioneers of art, pictures, collectables and motor cars. We use cookies to remember choices you make on functionality and personal features to enhance your experience to our site. By continuing to use our site you consent to the use of cookies. ... Asian Art Bonhams. Work. 22 Queen St.