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Hi All,
Still cleaning out my garage, and I found these wrapped in 10-year-old newspaper. I don't recall buying them at all. But they are interesting. At first glance, I thought they were a Japanese sake set, but after taking a second look, I decided they might be Chinese. The bottle and the cups all have raised an enameled decoration on a yellow ground, and the cups, and the mouth of the bottle, have thin silver linings. The bases, as you can see, are snow-white porcelain, although there is some kiln grit sticking to it. There is a single raised mark on the bottom of each cup, and the bottle has an 11-character mark along the bottom edge, within the footrim. Of course, I can't read it, but the characters look Chinese to me. I could not find matching characters in Davison's book, but maybe I didn't look in the right place.
The closeup shows a profusion of bubbles in white glaze, and you can see how the blue characters from the mark bled into the glaze when it was fired. I find this set nice and puzzling, and am hoping you can tell me more. I would love to know what the base says...
Thanks,
Charles
Ok, so here is what I have found with additional research.
This link says a very similar vase (also porcelain), with different characters on the bottom, is Japanese. It is a little sketchy on the age, but implies mid-20th century. It places a ludicrous price of $2500 on the piece.
Eiraku Vase with Seal Mark – Galleries Extraordinaire | Asian Antiques & Fine Art
This is a discussion that concludes that a similar bottle or vase, with different marks, and which appears to be possibly stoneware, is Shiwan.
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I have to admit the mark on the bottom of the cups for my set looks a little like a Shiwan mark I found online. But the marks on the bottle don't. And I have never seen nice, white Shiwan porcelain; it that a thing?
I know the characters are blurry and hard to read, but even identifying it as Chinese or Japanese would help! Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Charles
I'm sorry, Charles, I thought I posted here, yesterday. Must have forgotten to hit the send button- again! 🙄 😊
I wasn't going to add anything useful, just say I had tried and not found anything other than a vaguely similar Japanese vase in softer colours. I also thought the foot Tim looked very sugary which would help with dating.
As for origin, I was unsure; at first glance, I thought Japanese but the more I looked, the less sure I was. Having looked at the first link you gave, could it be some modern chinese copy of Cochin ware? I do see what you mean about the mark on the cups, though.
I couldn't open the other just now, will try again.
It worked that time.I looked up the Cochin ware aspect and it seems it is made in Japan (Kyoto ware) and Taiwan, too. So not a very helpful way forward. I think the original wares were earthenware whereas the more recent pieces look like porcelain with what is called a Kochi glaze.
As you can tell, I am a bit confused by all this, but I think yours is Japanese. I read the colour makes that more likely, too. More recent ones have a more lemony yellow, but I would guess yours in possibly 1960s/70s maybe?
It would be helpful to know what the base says. 😊
Hi Charles, did you find any more information on your set? I like how the script circles the base of your vase and of course the cranes are attractive. Sharon
Sharon, I have found a few things. There are various links to pieces described as Fahua--inspired by Wucai enamels. Most seem to be attributed to Eiraku, but the mark on the bottom of the cups is different than the Eiraku mark. Here is a link showing the Eiraku mark. I found other links, too, once I found the name Eiraku. But the symbol on the bottom of my cups doesn't look like the Eiraku mark. Also, some of the Eiraku pieces I found appear to be stoneware rather than porcelain.
Traditional Japanese Fahua Porcelain Sake Cup 950 Silver Insert Signed Eiraku | Collectors Weekly
Here is another one that matches pretty well, in terms of style and material.
Kutani "tokkuri" (sake bottle) marked "Eiraku" - Japan - - Catawiki
My pieces seem to be more thinly potted than the Eraku Hozen pieces, and the yellow is a different color. Also, the Eiraku pieces all seem to have the same decoration, which is not the same as mine. I suspect that my pieces are a later copy of the Eiraku style, possibly early to mid-20th century.
Charles
Have you tried taking a pencil or charcoal rubbing of the mark on the base of the cups? That may make it easier to identify.
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