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@pbarski93 I've found this thread very educational. Thank you!
In scrutinizing the decoration, there are signs of transfer; the broken lines and choppy edges of the leaves, especially. I think the color was filled in by hand, though.
For comparison, here is my 1950s hand-painted vase. One can see how the lines make sense as brush strokes and have greater definition.
As I said earlier my feeling was that the vase is a more modern piece. I agree with the comments of those who feel the same way and would like to add regarding the mark that there are some very shaky lines, it is either someone copying a mark or a stamped mark. If this were a high end piece, the way the mark was written, would reflect that.
This could be a version of the fancy, Qianlong-style 'bow' vases that we have seen on here before. If I have time later, I will see if I can find a thread.
Though the gold doesn't look too shiny and modern I think the knot is the giveaway. In a Republic piece the gold is often rubbed off by handling. Here it looks like it was applied with gaps from the beginning.
Birgit
Thanks for all the input. It's hard for you guys to see in the photos but it's definitely not transfer ware, as you can see in these photos. It is a master.work by a genius artist.
I think the ware on the guilding is from rubbing, again hard to see in photos. The colour is quite close to this other vase I have. Lee young from Dore and Rees was sure the vase (dragon vase) is early republic. I don't believe the guilding was sprayed on the vase in question. It does also look worn rather than using a wax technique or something.
It can be difficult to tell the difference between genuine gold leaf gilt and synthetic gold paint.
The one thing is that genuine gilt does not tarnish over time because the gold is 24ct.
Gold synthetic paint will tarnish very quickly and become very dull.
One way to determine is to actually take the vase to a gold dealer who has access to a XRF gun. He can quickly without touching the vase tell you if it is indeed gilt gold or other.
When you compare your two vases the dragon ones gilt stands out as very bright. The other is dull.
I have included for you two examples of genuine gilt.
The first one is Chinese crica 1900. The second is Japanese also circa 1900.
Mark
This piece is likely a Republic period piece your camera filters are not necessary just put it in outdoor light. The rainbow effect in the green enamels it a trait of that period. I would suggest a horizontal shoot with your camera at an angle so we can see the enamels thickness. Two things that make this troublesome the pink is strange and the lines on the leafs are a little thick.
Thanks Brian, I noticed the iridescence, also in the rocks. I know what Mark means, the guilding looks a bit dull. But is it a fact that they only used gold leaf in the republic period?
The gilding might have not been burnished after firing. You can burnish an area of the gilding to see if it will shine and go from there.
Other oxides imitating gold leaf were used during the Republic period as in today. Some even use gold gilt leaf today but it's costly and hardily worthwhile.
Your vase is very nice and it's high quality.
Mark
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