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@gfhandel thanks, I hope so I'll take some more photos tomorrow. I just found it online. I look through smaller auction houses and only buy once in a while. There's always something to buy, so I just wait for the right moment, often items that get passed, like this one. I do wonder if the market is down at the moment and perhaps there's more available?
@thomasumjohnson I would have been too nervous that this is more modern so good for you. They certainly made some flamboyant designs in the Republic period. The quality of decoration is high; it's really striking and beautiful.
I wouldn't have dared either, Steve. It is beautifully decorated, but I too would have thought it was a more modern copy.
I really must learn more about Republic porcelains. 😊
To me it looks to have more age than the original photos.
JP
I know a number of members were of the opinion that it's Republic period.
The gilt looks like gold paint. The orange peel in the last picture looks off.
I have never seen a gold Qianlong mark from the Republic period but I have seen them much later on fanciful examples.
The overall design is very strange and I have tried to find comps without success.
My personal opinion is that it's a fanciful piece and not Republic but much later.
Of course it's just my opinion and I would definitely ask Peter what's he thinks here.
Mark
The gilding appears to be sprayed, the undercoating is too clean to be naturally worn or cleaned off. There's some flecks that shouldn't be where the white is. It's also the wrong gold color, its too antique-brassy. The enamel looks good but some areas appear to be traced in, especially the sides. The orange peel effect is artificially older looking too, it's got too much of a sheen polish and buff to really consider some age to it. My gut feeling is modern. The seal script style and application is very bold, heavily applied which is generally a giveaway aside from the color being off again. The feet have no wear as well, they seemed buffed and filed a bit if anything.
It's my assumption with the points referenced above but the age just isn't confident whatsoever to me. The AH did a good job at the photos though as they have that convincing appeal.
Fair play, this is.why I only pay fake prices. Nevertheless I've not seen anything of this quality for the price I paid for it. It's truly a master work by a masters hand.
To also highlight the color of the gilt, antique gilding should have more of a low-gloss and refractive luster rather than a dark burnishing like this. It'll still retain particles of refractive coloring in various spots, usually random and throughout except for high points of contact where as artificial gilding will be more widespread burnished like this and highlight in broad or selective areas to convince the viewer of wear and handling. Most of the time, artificial paint gilt will be applied over wax to create these worn-off areas too which the effect appears to follow. The lines being clean in shape suggest this process was followed.
The antique-brassy effect is the general overtone of the painting being applied throughout rather than selectively sporadic and decisive points where wear might be expected (handles, body footing and lower base, maybe the mouth rim especially if the object has a lid).
@thomasumjohnson I can respect that, its low risk for high reward odds a bit when played right. I've collected quite a few good pieces this way, sometimes entirely out of dumb luck; like the kosometsuke dishes I posted a bit ago.
Here's a good example of how the gilding should look and react in light as well, albeit on a mid qing jade carving. It still represents a good appearance of tone and effect as per above.
Maybe your right ?. I don't know. The question I asked myself before buying it was simple. I couldn't find anything like this anywhere else, so I assumed that it was a one off cast (not a cast made to print eñdless copies)!- of the same form. So let's say it's.a one off. The question I ask myself is who in Thier right mind would make a one off of something so intricate even before they start painting? So I ask you to to find me another example. Good luck to you on that one. After you've found it you can explain to me why someone would put so much effort into the form of the object before they even pick up a paint brush.
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