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I would appreciate knowing more about the possible date of these German pieces, they are all I believe pre-war, it was not a beehive mark on the violin playing boy, I looked up the various Metzler marks and as far as I can tell this was a pre-war one for shipment to the west, it has Germany on the rim, which is different from the ones with Germany beneath the mark and then later some of the company marks had DDR, am I correct in thinking prewar? There are some for sale but the mark is different on those.
My Strawflower plate is old and hand drawn, as the circles are rather wonky, I had found and copied the mark into my notebook on collectibles, am I correct in thinking 19th century?
Here is my fellow that sat atop my piano, he is pre-war and has Germany on the chair leg, I found his mark and copied it to my notebook, I love him very much. Do you have any idea of what his date of manufacture would be, I'm pretty sure it is later than 1861,
Thank you and thanks for looking. I see my plate everyday.
Since we are off topic, I also see my Great-Grandmother's Tennessee bureau everyday, that she received from her family when she married in January 1876, it was not new when she received it, her father died in 1858 and her mother died during the war. Her older married siblings raised the younger children. Great-Grandmother was born 1856, the bureau belonged to her older half-sister before she received it.
Thank you. Sharon
I like the guy in the chair.
The blue and white plate reminds me of Royal Copenhagen.
P.S. Just found another hand drawn similar mark in notebook for seated man, which is probably more correct because it has D&P as part of G under H looking mark, wonder if they were same company at different times, on this one it states LichtE (Thuringia) Heubach, Gebr., 1820- hard paste porcelain, has a D P on man in chair but certainly much later than both versions of marks. I need to organize my notebook, if same company.
@sharonp Hi!
I looked at the nice blue plate. The pattern in German is called: Indisch Blau.
for some insights: https://www.porzellanfieber.de/Porzellanfabrik-Reinecke_Firmengeschichte_Porzellanmarken.html
It's in German 😅 but it says the Mark on the plate was used between 1869 and 1930 so I think the dish would be more 1910 to 1920.
The "Meistergeiger" fiddeling boy is from around the 1950s...
Your Buddy seated on his chair is very nice. Age is as statted... maybe a little later then 1861... I would say about 1880-90.
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with Best Regards...
Carsten
@steve @detuned Thank you, I love Strawflower pattern and almost bought a set of transferware by a Staffordshire company, but Johnson Brothers Blue Onion were the dishes I started out married life for everyday dishes, but they were stored at my parents home for the years, while husband in the Navy, took an inexpensive set on the road going back and forth. I have always admired the Royal Copenhagen, the article translated for me, the hand drawing of the wonky circles made me think it would be a little older but it does look most like the mark for 1914 on the list of marks. The violin player could not be fifties, as it would be marked West Germany or DDR if not West Germany then it would be after 1989, Berlin Frei, like my t-shirt from then, along with all the chunks of the Wall that my husband brought home to me, traveling for the company to assess East German Seismic capabilities and the geologists along on the trip all had rock hammers with them. Ode to Joy. I think the little fellow must be before 1989, on the list for Metzler marks I found the Green marks were pre-war and some of them had the word Germany below the mark and not on the rim, makes me think it must have been made to ship to U.S. because of country of origin requirement, but I did not see one in the list with Germany on the rim, suppose it is possible after 1989, has model number 6902 inscribed on base, except showed different marks for later period, "it's a puzzlement," as Stacy Keach said as the King of Siam at the Muny Opera in St. Louis and I knew I had chosen wisely as the kids were singing the childrens song the next day in the pool, turned to my sister and said, "told you so, that's the one they needed to see."
The Fiddler might be a piece which was stamped "Germany" at a later point, when the base was already glazed. That is why the stamp is on the unglazed part. All the pages I have looked at say, the figure is mid 20th Century.
So probably first for the geman market and then stamped for export...
with Best Regards...
Carsten
@detuned Thank you, I'm happy that he is mid-century, started wondering about post 1989. He and his pal in the chair lived upstairs packed away in a closet instead of the attic, but if and when the weather turns cold again, I am going on a hunting expedition for trade fodder for my favorite antique shop for other Asian items, who doesn't need a collection of old heavy sad irons, those happy days of yore? Not. I have to keep the boys, but they are going back to the upstairs closet today, but they will finally have a new newspaper article to read, still have a print newspaper delivered in the mail, from a small town in Missouri. I read one online from an Oklahoma town, gave up the Houston Chronicle when they stopped having a book section and book events in the Arts Zest section, all my complaining letters went to the round file, except my favorite Arts reporter sent me a hard copy reply saying that she agreed with me. Barbarians at the Gate, that was a good book.
P.S. Someone sold a 1989 Berlin Frei t-shirt like mine with two bears getting ready to hug over a map of Germany on Etsy for 32.00, I'm keeping mine along with my Ping Pong Diplomacy shirt with a panda bear playing ping pong and my Spiro T, Agnew watch face with the numbers backwards on a clock face t-shirt, when in the 9th grade my career aptitude test came up with lawyer or journalist as first jobs, thought briefly about political science, no thank you. I won't be selling those.😂🕊
P.P.S. Someone wants 229.00 for a Spiro Agnew t-shirt like mine on Etsy, I now remember the watch face did not have the numbers backwards, it was the watch hands on the wrist watches that ran backwards was the joke. I could not find my Panda playing ping pong, but now I think mine was a pajama top, not a t- shirt, whatever, they are packed away and they can stay there for my sons to laugh over some day and maybe get a buck or two.
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