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Topic starter 01/08/2020 10:16 am  

Hi,

The other day I bought a very cheap job lot of bits and pieces because tucked away in the box were a couple of decent items. Amongst the rest, was this little dog.  It looks rather 1950s/60s (?) Chinese, but I am not sure.  Especially with that mark on the foot.

What do you think, please?  It is quite heavy, looks hand-painted.  

Thanks for your help.

Julia

 


   
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01/08/2020 10:39 am  

Its interesting to me, Julia

If I had to guess, it would be  similar to your estimate. The face is a bit odd in the close-up pic. Looks like it is pretty good quality. 

take it with a grain of salt


   
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Topic starter 01/08/2020 11:08 am  

Thanks, Todd.  It was an interesting lot but I was the only one interested!  Nice when it happens like that - for the buyer, anyway.


   
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01/08/2020 11:10 am  

Whatever it is, the dog‘s expression makes me smile. 

Birgit


   
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02/08/2020 1:38 am  

Yes I think the painting style of the leaves and the butterfly is typically Chinese, 1950s seems about right; the number 136 could be the batch or factory number 

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Topic starter 02/08/2020 2:39 am  

Thank you, Tam! It was the decoration that made me think it might be.  Also, the blushed area around his mouth looks similar to how they paint figurines of people around then.

Thanks too for pointing out that it says 136.  I was thinking Bb! 😊 


   
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02/08/2020 3:03 am  

I thought is was Bb too 😋 

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02/08/2020 11:01 am  

Hi Julia, 

You have the advantage of being able to touch and feel your dog so know if it is porcelain or earthenware. When I saw your photo's I thought English specifically Wemyss ware.  I know they made a range of Cats, Pigs and dogs with strange expressive faces vaguely oriental some decorated with floral decoration. Their products were all made in earthenware so i discounted that thought as I know you would not have posted the dog in question here if It was earthenware. The Bd or 136 mark in western script made me think about pre world war one German porcelain I think I can see molded into the pooches body a coat or Jacket not sure if the wearing of such items is an oriental thing for dogs. So sorry I am not much help to you, but will say that sometimes the not very interesting at first glance can prove to be the opposite.  Cheers

Michael       


   
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02/08/2020 11:23 am  

Not German porcelain, they would have written the number 1 in a different way. 

Birgit


   
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02/08/2020 12:47 pm  

 Hi Birgit.

True however the 6 if it is a 6 looks to my eye to have a Gothic central European look,  anyway I am not totally convinced that they are numerals but rather a upper case B followed by a lower case b written in an old Gothic style. As I always say it is virtually impossible to identify such items from photo's however the white of the porcelain has that cold hard look I identify with central European items. However  the painting of the butterfly has a decidedly Asian style to it.  All goes to show subjects titled not very interesting can be fun to discuss sometimes.        

Cheers

Michael


   
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02/08/2020 12:57 pm  

I enjoyed reading about Wemyss ware on Wikepedia and loved the examples pictured especially the bunny, and yes, Julia's pup's eyes look similar, maybe it was a Chinese/Japanese knock off of the style.  


   
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Topic starter 02/08/2020 2:21 pm  

Thanks, Michael, I did just have a look for Chinese-style Wemyss dog but all the flowers on the search results are incorrect.  It was a good thought, though and not one that had occurred to me, although I am pretty certain he is porcelain, anyway.

So far, I have come across three similar shaped dogs (pugs, apparently) that were refered to as chinese.  

Thanks for the help.


   
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Topic starter 02/08/2020 2:32 pm  

Look, two very similar yellow ones!  No marks on the underside of a paw, but they have that band around the middle.

https://www.lofty.com/products/5-chinese-porcelain-yellow-flambe-glaze-articles-1-9e7vp


   
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02/08/2020 5:51 pm  

Congratulations Julia, mystery solved (by you).  I think your pug pup is the pick of the litter.


   
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02/08/2020 10:27 pm  

Well done Julia you have cracked that one, but not the pup I hope. The tails are identical. That's not a bad lot you found for $50.00 if you just wanted a collection of nicely glazed items and were not worried about being antique.

Cheers

Michael 


   
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