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Hey all,
I am wondering if anyone can read the marks or has any insights on this card case. It was given to Dr John Clarence Cutter, physician to Meiji IV, and lecturer in Japan on Medicine in the 19th century.
It is one of the finest things I have ever held in my hands, honestly.
I will post more, but from my phone this is all the typing I can stand at the moment.
Cheers,
Jeremy
Hi Jeremy,
I dont know the mark/artist.
This is a outstanding example. One of the finest ones I have seen. And it's in remarkable condition.
Have you bought this?
Mark
A very fine piece of art. Looking forward to more information.
Mark,
A good friend and regular customer of the owner of the shop I work with brought it into the shop, and has asked if we could sell it. I have found that John Clarence Cutter recieved the Order of the Rising Sun, fourth class and apparently this was presented to him during his time in Japan. It has been hidden away for at least the last 35 years and clearly has not been used and abused. I honestly have not seen many of these to begin with but of the few I have seen it is most certainly the best. I believe years ago in New York I saw a tankard that is comparable, but it was well used. I don’t even know where to begin on the mark. Being ivory I suspect it will be more difficult to sell, though dated to prior 1878, this would likely not be held up under the CITES protocols.
Hopefully some will recognize the mark. If not I have my work cut out for me, and will keep you all posted.
Jeremy
Hi Jeremy,
The mark looks familiar to me. However, I have asked my friend Martin for his help.
I will report back to you as soon as I get a response from him.
It's certainly worth buying my friend. I know you may not wish to discuss or disclose it on a open forum. You can contact me privately if you care to.
Mark
Jeremy,
What a beautiful piece. I spent a bit looking for the mark earlier. The closest I could come up with is that the first character resembles 北, although I was unable to find anything from that.
The latter two characters (or one?) look stylistic - the middle seems to end in a long stroke that circles 山, which is zan or yama... It made me wonder whether the latter two characters are 芝山, which is Shibayama, but that combination of characters brought up nothing for me.
Ah, I just saw Mark's response - Can't wait for Martin's response!
Kind regards,
John
Hi Jeremy -
I know nothing about such wares, but quality always shines through ...
As with others, a very beautiful piece ...
Stuart
In the west this style of decoration fits nicely into the aesthetic period of design so the 1887 dating would be spot on, maybe 10 yers older. In Japan I guess the style would just called Japanese. It is very nice. I think the high dollar market would be the US, maybe England.
Ron
🤨 What a moral dilemna. Your obliged to fulfil your employment and sell the item. However, it wont sell at its true value, and the seller wants it sold. So you must sell it. On the other hand you coudl advise them to take it to Ssothebys or christies for auction but then you fail to fulfill the speciifications of you r employment and indeed it may not within your scope or remit of empoloyment to make such a recommendation. Your skills and knowledge and more importantly apprecation for fine art, if we just take the latter then you could ask your employer to put it up for sale and then you could buy it as something you find beautiful with only speculative but neither real nor exact knowledge of its true value, but no doubt it it has a somewhat greater value than what price is required to actually get the item sold in good time to satisfy the customer.
What a terrible dilemna. What will you do.
I am not actually employed there, I just work with the owner and advise, also I sell certain things for him that are slow to move in the physical store, online. The current owner of the case is asking a rather high price, though I suspect it truly should be worth more than he is asking. Unfortunately the current policies on Ivory (Completely idiotic in my opinion... If you stop the sales of historical ivory you only incentivize the black market on newer ivory...) are just killing the ability to ask a premium, as I have reached out to a few dealers, who agree that it is one of the best examples they have seen, are hesitant to even try anything with it because of the current state of law. The UK for instance is making it nearly impossible to import/export for things that are mostly ivory, such as the case.
I am still searching for people interested in the United States as it would still be possible to sell since we meet the criteria for an exemption, similar to a hallmarked silver piece, this is datable.
I have advised that it be listed in the shop with some wiggle room for negotiation, on the off chance someone walks in and wants it.
No recommendation I make is really putting my work with the shop, or the owner, who is a dear friend, in jeopardy, I am lucky in that sense.
Jeremy
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